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Originally posted by reddogrw
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wrong it lets you get your stadium built faster so you get the added revenue. which in turn lets you purchase better promotions. which in turn gives you a added edge over teams that don't have the cash to get the promotions. this idea would help the better ran teams achieve their goals sooner.


So, you are saying it wouldn't make anything easier?

I mean while we are at it, let's level up faster too. Or, maybe we should only have two quarters instead of four, so we get to the results faster! Really maybe we should just get to buy a fully stocked stadium, right from the get go. Then just think of all promos you could run, it would be fantastic! Nachos and bobble heads for all.

We can call it the "Bailout" Suggestion!

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How the hell is it easier for everyone if I watch how I spend the money my team makes and I am able to build my stadium faster. it rewards owners for putting in the work. you are whinning about something entirely different than what I am saying. I don't want anyone to give me anything. but if I have planned my finances and I am able to build a extra section or 2 due to me working harder than someone else then so be it. I should have the option that if I have all my stadium built and I am able to buy the extra 300 sections a season earlier then why not let us put it in que and have it built the same season as the 200 sections.


1 - if you plan right your first season, you can build 5 of 8 200 level sections your first off season if you have the money and use any additional cash to expand seats - the OP failed miserably in this aspect

2 - you make more money typically by expanding your lower level seats than purchasing your 300 level seats anyway, and you can expand that seating right away if you have all that cash because you have won so many games and have max fan support

a 100 level sideline seat costs $1,000 per seat
at 1.5x you can sell tickets for $63, or $504 for an 8 game home schedule
$1000/504 = 1.98 seasons to pay it back

even a 200 level EZ seat sells for $33, or $264 for an 8 game schedule, with payback in 3.78 seasons (1000/264)

a 300 level section costs $833.33 per seat ($4.5M for 5400 seats)
at 1.5x you can sell tickets for $22.50, or $180 for an 8 game home schedule
833.33/180 = 4.63 seasons to pay it back

so, unless you have expanded every single seat in your stadium, GLB is actually doing you a favor by forcing you to expand seating as opposed to purchasing that 300 level section

I don't think all the people jumping on board with this understand math all that well


why not stop trying to be a egotistical smart ass. I understand the math fine my team is actually in very good shape as far as the cash is concerned. I have done exactly what you outlined as of now. but if we had the option to build those sections I would have went a different way and built a 300 section then I would only like building 1 300 section the last season of the stadium build. so basically instead of me having to pay for both 300 sections and then finishing the seating the last season of the build I would only be doing the 1 300 section seats. this would leave me alot more money for the promotions in my 4rth season and would give me a small edge in the 4rth season due to me working hard to finish the stadium.

basically even if we could do what the OP said we would only finish the stadium roughly 1 half season earlier at best. but it would let the person that worked to finish that half season sooner a small boost on the promotions which may help make a difference in a championship season.
 
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Originally posted by hatchman
How the hell is it easier for everyone if I watch how I spend the money my team makes and I am able to build my stadium faster. it rewards owners for putting in the work. you are whinning about something entirely different than what I am saying. I don't want anyone to give me anything. but if I have planned my finances and I am able to build a extra section or 2 due to me working harder than someone else then so be it. I should have the option that if I have all my stadium built and I am able to buy the extra 300 sections a season earlier then why not let us put it in que and have it built the same season as the 200 sections.



OK, in spirit of the suggestion would each section need to be fully upgrade before unlocking the ability to build a section a season early? If you could implement this.

Also, to be clear I don't care enough to whine. It changes nothing for me if it's added. Just makes it easier/funnier for impatient people. Which is why I think it's a needless addition. Easier is fine in some areas, just don't think it's needed here. Just my opinion. It just happens to be different then yours.
 
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Originally posted by BadgerPhil
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How the hell is it easier for everyone if I watch how I spend the money my team makes and I am able to build my stadium faster. it rewards owners for putting in the work. you are whinning about something entirely different than what I am saying. I don't want anyone to give me anything. but if I have planned my finances and I am able to build a extra section or 2 due to me working harder than someone else then so be it. I should have the option that if I have all my stadium built and I am able to buy the extra 300 sections a season earlier then why not let us put it in que and have it built the same season as the 200 sections.



OK, in spirit of the suggestion would each section need to be fully upgrade before unlocking the ability to build a section a season early? If you could implement this.

Also, to be clear I don't care enough to whine. It changes nothing for me if it's added. Just makes it easier/funnier for impatient people. Which is why I think it's a needless addition. Easier is fine in some areas, just don't think it's needed here. Just my opinion. It just happens to be different then yours.


well you do not have to have all the sections completed now to build on top of them. but I understand what you are saying. it is smarter to build the seats in the sections that you already have than to buy more sections. but for some of us that actually have most of our seats bought and paid for the ability to say buy the extra 300 section a season earlier doesn't really speed up anything. it just lets me get that section paid for 1 season earlier and lets me start paying for the seats in that section. at best if the OPs suggestion were implemented it would allow for a team to finish their stadium at most 1 half season earlier. all this is based on not using any promos until the stadium is completed though.
 
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reddogrw has hit the nail on the head. Plan better next time, think of it as a mistake tax.
 
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Originally posted by hatchman
wrong it lets you get your stadium built faster so you get the added revenue. which in turn lets you purchase better promotions. which in turn gives you a added edge over teams that don't have the cash to get the promotions. this idea would help the better ran teams achieve their goals sooner.


 
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Originally posted by hatchman
why not stop trying to be a egotistical smart ass. I understand the math fine my team is actually in very good shape as far as the cash is concerned. I have done exactly what you outlined as of now. but if we had the option to build those sections I would have went a different way and built a 300 section then I would only like building 1 300 section the last season of the stadium build. so basically instead of me having to pay for both 300 sections and then finishing the seating the last season of the build I would only be doing the 1 300 section seats. this would leave me alot more money for the promotions in my 4rth season and would give me a small edge in the 4rth season due to me working hard to finish the stadium.

basically even if we could do what the OP said we would only finish the stadium roughly 1 half season earlier at best. but it would let the person that worked to finish that half season sooner a small boost on the promotions which may help make a difference in a championship season.


 
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Stadium building is kind of fun. No need to dumb it down anymore. After 3 seasons it's finished and then you are stuck with your thumb up your butt.
 
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Originally posted by hatchman
Originally posted by BadgerPhil

I don't understand the need to make things easier or quicker, in this instance. Serves no purpose other than to satisfy impatience.




wrong it lets you get your stadium built faster so you get the added revenue. which in turn lets you purchase better promotions. which in turn gives you a added edge over teams that don't have the cash to get the promotions. this idea would help the better ran teams achieve their goals sooner.


Biggest post of the thread.
 
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Originally posted by Jaxon Voom
Biggest post of the thread.


well explain why it is the of the thread so far. I agree with what reddogrw posted about the current stadium construction. but no one has offered any math as to why the OP's idea shouldn't be done. all that has been shown was peoples opinions.

The OP isn't asking for a handout, he isn't asking for a easy way to build a stadium. all he said is if you already have sections in que to be built for the next season then why not allow for the sections that are affected by the construction also be unlocked. while I know everyone says build the seats first and that makes perfect sense. especially with what we are limited to doing with the current set-up. so before you come in here and just criticize try adding some valid points to the debate.
 
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Originally posted by hatchman
Originally posted by Jaxon Voom
Originally posted by hatchman

Originally posted by BadgerPhil


I don't understand the need to make things easier or quicker, in this instance. Serves no purpose other than to satisfy impatience.




wrong it lets you get your stadium built faster so you get the added revenue. which in turn lets you purchase better promotions. which in turn gives you a added edge over teams that don't have the cash to get the promotions. this idea would help the better ran teams achieve their goals sooner.


Biggest post of the thread.




well explain why it is the of the thread so far. I agree with what reddogrw posted about the current stadium construction. but no one has offered any math as to why the OP's idea shouldn't be done. all that has been shown was peoples opinions.

The OP isn't asking for a handout, he isn't asking for a easy way to build a stadium. all he said is if you already have sections in que to be built for the next season then why not allow for the sections that are affected by the construction also be unlocked. while I know everyone says build the seats first and that makes perfect sense. especially with what we are limited to doing with the current set-up. so before you come in here and just criticize try adding some valid points to the debate.


the reason for the is what I bolded

if the team were "better ran", they would have built the correct sections their first season and not had this issue
Edited by reddogrw on Feb 24, 2011 18:00:08
Edited by reddogrw on Feb 24, 2011 17:59:52
 
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Originally posted by reddogrw
the reason for the is what I bolded

if the team were "better ran", they would have built the correct sections their first season and not had this issue


It shouldn't even be an issue. Do you just troll suggestions looking to argue. You stated what you think......move on already!
 
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Originally posted by reddogrw
Originally posted by hatchman

Originally posted by Jaxon Voom

Originally posted by hatchman


Originally posted by BadgerPhil



I don't understand the need to make things easier or quicker, in this instance. Serves no purpose other than to satisfy impatience.




wrong it lets you get your stadium built faster so you get the added revenue. which in turn lets you purchase better promotions. which in turn gives you a added edge over teams that don't have the cash to get the promotions. this idea would help the better ran teams achieve their goals sooner.


Biggest post of the thread.




well explain why it is the of the thread so far. I agree with what reddogrw posted about the current stadium construction. but no one has offered any math as to why the OP's idea shouldn't be done. all that has been shown was peoples opinions.

The OP isn't asking for a handout, he isn't asking for a easy way to build a stadium. all he said is if you already have sections in que to be built for the next season then why not allow for the sections that are affected by the construction also be unlocked. while I know everyone says build the seats first and that makes perfect sense. especially with what we are limited to doing with the current set-up. so before you come in here and just criticize try adding some valid points to the debate.


the reason for the is what I bolded

if the team were "better ran", they would have built the correct sections their first season and not had this issue

I will type this slowly so you can understand I built my damn stadium right that isn't the debate. the point we are trying to talk about is if you already had lets say all the 200 section in que to be built the following season and you had enough cash to buy 1 300 section also but you cannot do that now. the sections have to be built before you have the option to buy more even when you already bought the sections needed. and they are sitting in the que waiting to be built. so the OP is simply saying open it up so that when you have the needed sections bought and waiting to be built. have it so that you can buy the next section that was locked.

again we aren't talking about the stadiums we have now.
 
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Originally posted by BadBuc99
Originally posted by reddogrw

the reason for the is what I bolded

if the team were "better ran", they would have built the correct sections their first season and not had this issue


It shouldn't even be an issue. Do you just troll suggestions looking to argue. You stated what you think......move on already!


everything in this game is about knowing how things should be done

and those that don't plan well don't so as well - just because you say it shouldn't be an issue doesn't make it so - it is no different than anyone who screws up the build of a player, or loses a game because they screwed up their AI - whining doesn't change that

and as long as you and your buddy continue to bump this thread with the "I have no patience and I wanna build more" posts I will post the responses - it's not like you're bringing anything new to the party here

1 - build your stadium in the correct order
2 - when you can't build any more sections, expand seating

if you have a clue, you'll have a completed stadium after your prep season (3rd season) and head to university leagues with a complete stadium
 
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Originally posted by hatchman
Originally posted by reddogrw

Originally posted by hatchman


Originally posted by Jaxon Voom


Originally posted by hatchman



Originally posted by BadgerPhil




I don't understand the need to make things easier or quicker, in this instance. Serves no purpose other than to satisfy impatience.




wrong it lets you get your stadium built faster so you get the added revenue. which in turn lets you purchase better promotions. which in turn gives you a added edge over teams that don't have the cash to get the promotions. this idea would help the better ran teams achieve their goals sooner.


Biggest post of the thread.




well explain why it is the of the thread so far. I agree with what reddogrw posted about the current stadium construction. but no one has offered any math as to why the OP's idea shouldn't be done. all that has been shown was peoples opinions.

The OP isn't asking for a handout, he isn't asking for a easy way to build a stadium. all he said is if you already have sections in que to be built for the next season then why not allow for the sections that are affected by the construction also be unlocked. while I know everyone says build the seats first and that makes perfect sense. especially with what we are limited to doing with the current set-up. so before you come in here and just criticize try adding some valid points to the debate.


the reason for the is what I bolded

if the team were "better ran", they would have built the correct sections their first season and not had this issue

I will type this slowly so you can understand I built my damn stadium right that isn't the debate. the point we are trying to talk about is if you already had lets say all the 200 section in que to be built the following season and you had enough cash to buy 1 300 section also but you cannot do that now. the sections have to be built before you have the option to buy more even when you already bought the sections needed. and they are sitting in the que waiting to be built. so the OP is simply saying open it up so that when you have the needed sections bought and waiting to be built. have it so that you can buy the next section that was locked.

again we aren't talking about the stadiums we have now.


and I (and many others) disagree - for a ton of reasons that were posted in this thread
 
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I swear reddogrw I have alot of respect for you but your higher than thou attitude when someone is just discussing something shows what a jack ass you are. I am not saying that anything you posted was wrong. I agreed completely with what you posted but instead of discussing a idea out you come in here and plop your ass down and say your way is the right way and no matter what anyone else says doesn't matter. all the freaking OP was wanting was the option to build his stadium however he saw fit. I was just trying to help the guy out with his argument. Even if this idea went through I would still build my stadiums the same way as I do now. but just because we do something now doesn't mean that it is the only way. You know if you would actually act like something besides a smart ass your point may be taken better.
 
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