Warrior General Games

I would think there are several parts, but I am not sure the order in which they happen.
Basically, what has to happen to complete a pass, and what can go wrong? What order do these things occur?

Pass Vector calculation
Pass Quality calculation
WR/CB adjustment of movement to get into position based on pass vector
Interception check
Pass deflection check
Catching check
Pass Deflection for getting tackled after the catch.


The order is important. Who gets first bite of the apple? Does the WR get to try and catch and then the CB gets to try and intercept if the WR misses. Does the order of operations change based on individual tactics?

defense gets first crack at the pass, followed by the receiver, followed by defense again if he misses/drops it.

Cool, thanks.

Now, I know that players have a "Catch radius," but is it more difficult to swat or catch a pass that is more toward the outside of the catch radius than the center? Hope that made sense.

Defensive players have a swat/intercept radius too.

yes, I assumed that. let me clarify my question:

Radius implies a sort of circle within which a player has a reach.

If the ball is coming into my CB's swat/catch radius, but only touches the outskirts, am I less likely to swat/catch the ball than if it comes into the center of my radius.

Originally posted by GMathiasf
yes, I assumed that. let me clarify my question:

Radius implies a sort of circle within which a player has a reach.

If the ball is coming into my CB's swat/catch radius, but only touches the outskirts, am I less likely to swat/catch the ball than if it comes into the center of my radius.

Yes, same as a WR is less likely to catch the farther it is from him.

Thank you, that's what I assumed. Just seems like all too often the CBs are in perfect position, but don't make the play. I was a little surprised to see that they get first crack at the roll. I guess it just may be the dots not matching up precisely with what's going on. I appreciate the input into the interworkings of the sim a little more and answering my specific questions.

Originally posted by GMathiasf
Thank you, that's what I assumed. Just seems like all too often the CBs are in perfect position, but don't make the play. I was a little surprised to see that they get first crack at the roll. I guess it just may be the dots not matching up precisely with what's going on. I appreciate the input into the interworkings of the sim a little more and answering my specific questions.

Very surprised that they get the first roll, makes me think jumping is not as useful as I thought it was. After all it won't do anything to get the first roll, therefore all it really does is allow you to catch balls the defender already missed, correct?

I'm assuming jumping increases your radius for balls over your head as I assume it's a 3-D radius.

I predict many CBs will up their catching, eh?

Originally posted by GMathiasf
I'm assuming jumping increases your radius for balls over your head as I assume it's a 3-D radius.

Has always been the case

Originally posted by GMathiasf
I'm assuming jumping increases your radius for balls over your head as I assume it's a 3-D radius.

I guess it is still as important, as long as you have a QB who is good enough to place the ball in a spot where only the receivers jumping lead to a catch, and make the defender miss. If anything, jumping is even more important on defense than I thought. If your Corner is good enough, might as well get 61 jumping and bam, your shutdown since you get the first roll.

Originally posted by Dachpappe
I predict many CBs will up their catching, eh?

I would presume that the defenders "catching/swatting circle" is much smaller than a WRs, and need much higher attribute totals to reach similar levels. For example, 48 catching for a CB is equivalent to a 20 catching WRs catching circle. Even so, this is very interesting...

Originally posted by blln4lyf
Originally posted by GMathiasf

Thank you, that's what I assumed. Just seems like all too often the CBs are in perfect position, but don't make the play. I was a little surprised to see that they get first crack at the roll. I guess it just may be the dots not matching up precisely with what's going on. I appreciate the input into the interworkings of the sim a little more and answering my specific questions.

Very surprised that they get the first roll, makes me think jumping is not as useful as I thought it was. After all it won't do anything to get the first roll, therefore all it really does is allow you to catch balls the defender already missed, correct?

Their first roll is modified by the WR's jumping/etc, much like the WR's roll is modified by the CB's skills. Basically the WR gets an anti-swat roll.