THE REASON WHY WE SHOULD ADD THIS TO GLB:
Originally posted by artsuppliesseller
General observation - The only real payout to me in this game is stats. I don't get Achievement Points, I can't play in real time and I can't call my own plays. There's really not that much to this game. The only thing I really look forward to is seeing how productive my players are. Winning is great, but I switch teams almost every season.
point being, the more stats the better. I want stats for everything. I even want to know how many time my guy talked s*** to the other team.
Another Reason to Add:
Originally posted by dagostil
It's kind of ridiculous that Endorsements are a higher priority than adding a handful of statistics that would make everyone who owns a punter a thousand times happier.
OL are worthless:
Originally posted by brentd774
Maybe the O-line players should just be computer run since there is no incentive to creates one and put the time and money in boosting his abilities.
Contributions From
-Me
-dmfa41
-SyedAshrafulla
-Knick
-Gary Hughes
-Prokop
-trazer
-rathernot
-No.16
-seayjoel
People have wanted new stats for different positions for a while now and i will combine all of those into one thread.
Quarterbacks(QB)-This stat i came up with but sometimes QB's have a low completion percentage due to dropped passes, so my idea is to add "dropped passes" to see as a Qb, how you would be doing without drops. A stat suggested by Prokop is to add "3rd down Conversion percent" and "4th Down Conversion Percent", so you can see how big and clutch they are in important situations.
Wide Receiver(WR)-My idea is to add "passes thrown to" to see which receiver is thrown to the most and how many of those they actually catch.
Fullbacks(Fb)-"Pancakes" in the main stat line. Also, "Number of blocks succeeded" for blocking fb's
Kicker(K)-This idea is to measure how clutch a kicker is late in the game. My idea is to add a stat "4th Quarter FG's" so you can see how kickers do late in the game.
Kickers and Punters: An idea by Gary Hughes to add "Touchbacks" for both of thse postions. If kickers get a lot of these they have a big leg. If punters get these they are not good at pinning.Also, an idea by "ME" is to add "Kickoff length" because kickoff length is a very important stat for kickers to see who has a good leg
Punter(P)-This has been one of the most popular ideas. This idea is to add an "inside the 20" and "inside the 10" stat becuase good punters are great at pinning opponents deep in their territory. This will replace tackles on the main home page because who cares how many tackles your punter has. Pinning the opponent deep is way more important than tackles, which few punters record a lot.Also, a late idea by SyedAshrafulla is to add "Average Hangtime" so you can see if you are getting air on your punts, which is good
Cornerbacks,Free Safety, Strong Safety(CB),(FS),(SS)- All these positions need this stat to prove how good they are. The current stats do not show how good these positions are because frankly if a CB gets a lot of tackles it usually means they are having trouble covering people. You could argue that they just make plays though. Well, my stat will allow people to see really how good they are. Add a "catches allowed" stat. It will be the number of catches by the WR/TE they are covering. Will be pretty self-explanatory. People with low numbers are better than those with high numbers. Another stat will be "completions given up longer than 20 yards". This stat will show how many deep passes your CB/SS/FS gives up. It will be more important and will allow you to fix tactics(player tactics) depending on this stat. My final stat is "yards given up after completion". This will determine if after your man catches the ball, you can stop him instead of giving him extra yards. Its like the opposite of YAC for Wr's. Also,eliminate sacks by a CB because CB's do not blitz enough to have big sack numbers. Replace sacks with "catches allowed".Originally posted by trazer
Lower numbers doesn't neccessarily mean they are better numbers. It might mean you just played less.
You might want to go with a % of passes recieved to passes defensed (which could include drops and deflections)
That way its fair no matter how many passes are thrown your way or how much or little you play.
Offensive Linemen(OL)-Almost forgot about this. OL, as of now, have no stat that shows how good they perform. Huge pancake numbers can be from gutted games and they do not really show the talent of the players. The idea is to add "sacks allowed", because that will give the best idea of what OL is really good. Good OL will not give up many sacks and some OL could be considered good by lots of pancakes verse bad teams, but sacks allowed will prove how good you are verse good teams.Idea by: dmfa41Another idea by SyedAshrafulla is "Defeats" in which the OL is "burned" or when the defender gets by them.
Defensive Linemen(DL): These stats are from many people so i will not list them all. The first idea is "penetrations" or how many times the D-Linemen gets passed the blocker. the second idea is "Stuffs", in which the DL stops the ball carrier at the LOS. This is like TFL but an important stat for run-stuffers. The third idea is "4th Down Stops" or how many times the DL has stopped a carrier on 4th and short. The last idea for this position is "Goal-line Stands", or how many times the DL has stopped the offense on 3rd or 4th down inside the 5.
All Defenders:Originally posted by seayjoel
TFL yards pretty much like sack yards except for TFL's they work as positive numbers for defensive players but negative for offense. Like basic example in one game Bob who's an LB tackles John who's and RB for a 3 yard loss. That goes into stats for Bob as 1 tackle\, 1 TFL, and 3 TFL yards. It goes in for John as one TkdFL, and -3 TkdFL yards. If someone can photoshop my idea so that you can actually see what it would look like that'd be great.Also, another late idea just added, is the "Times Pancaked", or how much the defender is pancaked by the offense
All these stats will be hard to calculate, but as of now some positions do not have stats determining how good they really are. People could question this saying you could get these numbers from watching replays, but no one will watch full games to determine stats they cannto prove. These stats will give scouts a better idea of the team and will help players brag about their player. Thank you!
Summary:
QB's
dropped passes
3rd down conv %
4th down conv %
Recievers(WR, TE, HB, FB)
thrown to
Kickers
Game winning FGM/FGA
Touchbacks
Kickoff Length
Punters
inside 20
inside 10
Avg hangtime
DB's/LB's
Catches allowed
Catches allowed over 20 yds
Yards after completion
Oline
Sacks allowed
Dline
penetrations
stuffs
4th down stops
goal line stands
TFL Yards
Originally posted by artsuppliesseller
General observation - The only real payout to me in this game is stats. I don't get Achievement Points, I can't play in real time and I can't call my own plays. There's really not that much to this game. The only thing I really look forward to is seeing how productive my players are. Winning is great, but I switch teams almost every season.
point being, the more stats the better. I want stats for everything. I even want to know how many time my guy talked s*** to the other team.
Another Reason to Add:
Originally posted by dagostil
It's kind of ridiculous that Endorsements are a higher priority than adding a handful of statistics that would make everyone who owns a punter a thousand times happier.
OL are worthless:
Originally posted by brentd774
Maybe the O-line players should just be computer run since there is no incentive to creates one and put the time and money in boosting his abilities.
Contributions From
-Me
-dmfa41
-SyedAshrafulla
-Knick
-Gary Hughes
-Prokop
-trazer
-rathernot
-No.16
-seayjoel
People have wanted new stats for different positions for a while now and i will combine all of those into one thread.
Quarterbacks(QB)-This stat i came up with but sometimes QB's have a low completion percentage due to dropped passes, so my idea is to add "dropped passes" to see as a Qb, how you would be doing without drops. A stat suggested by Prokop is to add "3rd down Conversion percent" and "4th Down Conversion Percent", so you can see how big and clutch they are in important situations.
Wide Receiver(WR)-My idea is to add "passes thrown to" to see which receiver is thrown to the most and how many of those they actually catch.
Fullbacks(Fb)-"Pancakes" in the main stat line. Also, "Number of blocks succeeded" for blocking fb's
Kicker(K)-This idea is to measure how clutch a kicker is late in the game. My idea is to add a stat "4th Quarter FG's" so you can see how kickers do late in the game.
Kickers and Punters: An idea by Gary Hughes to add "Touchbacks" for both of thse postions. If kickers get a lot of these they have a big leg. If punters get these they are not good at pinning.Also, an idea by "ME" is to add "Kickoff length" because kickoff length is a very important stat for kickers to see who has a good leg
Punter(P)-This has been one of the most popular ideas. This idea is to add an "inside the 20" and "inside the 10" stat becuase good punters are great at pinning opponents deep in their territory. This will replace tackles on the main home page because who cares how many tackles your punter has. Pinning the opponent deep is way more important than tackles, which few punters record a lot.Also, a late idea by SyedAshrafulla is to add "Average Hangtime" so you can see if you are getting air on your punts, which is good
Cornerbacks,Free Safety, Strong Safety(CB),(FS),(SS)- All these positions need this stat to prove how good they are. The current stats do not show how good these positions are because frankly if a CB gets a lot of tackles it usually means they are having trouble covering people. You could argue that they just make plays though. Well, my stat will allow people to see really how good they are. Add a "catches allowed" stat. It will be the number of catches by the WR/TE they are covering. Will be pretty self-explanatory. People with low numbers are better than those with high numbers. Another stat will be "completions given up longer than 20 yards". This stat will show how many deep passes your CB/SS/FS gives up. It will be more important and will allow you to fix tactics(player tactics) depending on this stat. My final stat is "yards given up after completion". This will determine if after your man catches the ball, you can stop him instead of giving him extra yards. Its like the opposite of YAC for Wr's. Also,eliminate sacks by a CB because CB's do not blitz enough to have big sack numbers. Replace sacks with "catches allowed".Originally posted by trazer
Lower numbers doesn't neccessarily mean they are better numbers. It might mean you just played less.
You might want to go with a % of passes recieved to passes defensed (which could include drops and deflections)
That way its fair no matter how many passes are thrown your way or how much or little you play.
Offensive Linemen(OL)-Almost forgot about this. OL, as of now, have no stat that shows how good they perform. Huge pancake numbers can be from gutted games and they do not really show the talent of the players. The idea is to add "sacks allowed", because that will give the best idea of what OL is really good. Good OL will not give up many sacks and some OL could be considered good by lots of pancakes verse bad teams, but sacks allowed will prove how good you are verse good teams.Idea by: dmfa41Another idea by SyedAshrafulla is "Defeats" in which the OL is "burned" or when the defender gets by them.
Defensive Linemen(DL): These stats are from many people so i will not list them all. The first idea is "penetrations" or how many times the D-Linemen gets passed the blocker. the second idea is "Stuffs", in which the DL stops the ball carrier at the LOS. This is like TFL but an important stat for run-stuffers. The third idea is "4th Down Stops" or how many times the DL has stopped a carrier on 4th and short. The last idea for this position is "Goal-line Stands", or how many times the DL has stopped the offense on 3rd or 4th down inside the 5.
All Defenders:Originally posted by seayjoel
TFL yards pretty much like sack yards except for TFL's they work as positive numbers for defensive players but negative for offense. Like basic example in one game Bob who's an LB tackles John who's and RB for a 3 yard loss. That goes into stats for Bob as 1 tackle\, 1 TFL, and 3 TFL yards. It goes in for John as one TkdFL, and -3 TkdFL yards. If someone can photoshop my idea so that you can actually see what it would look like that'd be great.Also, another late idea just added, is the "Times Pancaked", or how much the defender is pancaked by the offense
All these stats will be hard to calculate, but as of now some positions do not have stats determining how good they really are. People could question this saying you could get these numbers from watching replays, but no one will watch full games to determine stats they cannto prove. These stats will give scouts a better idea of the team and will help players brag about their player. Thank you!
Summary:
QB's
dropped passes
3rd down conv %
4th down conv %
Recievers(WR, TE, HB, FB)
thrown to
Kickers
Game winning FGM/FGA
Touchbacks
Kickoff Length
Punters
inside 20
inside 10
Avg hangtime
DB's/LB's
Catches allowed
Catches allowed over 20 yds
Yards after completion
Oline
Sacks allowed
Dline
penetrations
stuffs
4th down stops
goal line stands
TFL Yards
Last edited Apr 30, 2009 16:57:02
