Warrior General Games

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SEEDING
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1 USPL ***Official*** Footballguys http://goallineblitz.com/game/team.pl?team_id=126
2 SAPL Krazy Monkeys http://goallineblitz.com/game/team.pl?team_id=884
3 CPL Marblehead Longhorns http://goallineblitz.com/game/team.pl?team_id=1881
4 OPL West Scranton Invaders http://goallineblitz.com/game/team.pl?team_id=2016
5 EEPL Emmaus Fighting Green Hornets http://goallineblitz.com/game/team.pl?team_id=384
6 SEAPL Bandar Lambung Pigskin Pirates http://goallineblitz.com/game/team.pl?team_id=991
7 APL Windhoek White Rhinos http://goallineblitz.com/game/team.pl?team_id=2725
8 WEPL Black Forrest Mercenaries http://goallineblitz.com/game/team.pl?team_id=609

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BRACKET
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http://www.bracketmaker.com/tmenu.cfm?tid=330677

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GAME SCHEDULE
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ROUND 2 [Winners Bracket round 2, Second Chance bracket round 1]
Your match must be scheduled, and played, no later than Day 17 (July 6th).

ROUND 3 [Winners Bracket Finals, Second Chance bracket round 2]
Your match must be scheduled, and played, no later than Day 21 (July 10th).

ROUND 4 [Second Chance bracket round 3]
Your match must be scheduled, and played, no later than Day 25 (July 14th).

ROUND 5 [Second Chance bracket Finals]
Your match must be scheduled, and played, no later than Day 29 (July 14th).

ROUND 6 [Tournament Finals - Game 1]
Your match must be scheduled, and played, no later than Day 33 (July 22nd.)

ROUND 7 [Tournament Finals - Game 2 (if necessary)]
Your match must be scheduled, and played, no later than Day 37 (July 24th).
 
 

I'm amazed you finally decided to post an update. I'm hoping the moderator who is "tournaments" will come firward and explain why Marblehead is required to have a "play-in" game with Drinkin. This is total BS. I think if people think about it (and others' opinions would be great), I can't think of a reason Marblehead isn't just it. San Francisco Sucka Free gutted after playing Marblehead in the CPL championship. SF did win the League championship by 6 points. So the moderator who runs the ToC was going to give Drinkin the bid. They won the season 8 league championship. Marblehead has ONLY won 2 straight CPL eastern hampionships.

This is total BS by the moderator who has the tournaments ID. The process and rules (that seem to get made up as people go) should be open and have input of at least owners if not agents. Maybe people will be down with Tournaments and think I'm the ass. At least there will be discussion.

Here's my reasoning why Marblehead (where I play) should just be the CPL team. Mainly, the tounament is taking the best of the league from the previous season and putting them into the ToC. Drinkin won nothing last season. They lost to SF in the conference final by like 100 points (no joke). The spread doesn't matter. What does is they lost and didn't win any Season 9 crown. Marblehead did. Why would we even consider this if it is about Season 9 accomplishments? Drinkin is a great team. But they didn't win last season.

What if there really was a world baseball playoof of the best teams. For arguement, say the Phillies folded in the offseason. By Tournament's rules, the redsux would go and not the rays. The Rays only won the AL crown when the redsux won ther 07 series. Wat? You think people would be down with the redsux choice? NFW. Do you think they'd be down with a play-in? NFW II. The same holds here.

Speak up. Maybe I'm alone on my island.

That's bias bullshit good sir..

Resolute, some data to support your argument:

In the season 8 tournament of champions (champions of season 7), the representative from South East Asia gutted before the tournament could start. The team selected to replace them was the runner up from the previous season, NOT the most recent champion from the league (who were available).

In the season 9 tournament of champions (champions of season 8), the African Pro League champions declined their invitation The first time invited to replace them was the league runner ups, who also declined. At that point, one of the conference runner ups was invited instead.

Also, lol at having the seedings determined before the field is set.

I smell something cooking....Is it fish?

I mean what kind of argument can be made to support this arbitrary playoff?

I can personally find no logical answer for this type of playoff.

First off this type of behavior sets a precedent for illogical inclusion of teams into the tourney that have no rightful claim to be in it.

Second at face value it looks and wreaks of blatant homerism and this truly diminishes the credibility of the tournament.

Fair play and honor ought to mean something in the GLB Tournament of Champions or otherwise we can just find a new name for it the Tournament of the cronies, friends, and uh somewhat champions

I agree that this is a joke. Someone of "importance" to the game please give input.

Originally posted by Gart888
Also, lol at having the seedings determined before the field is set.

That's not all that lol really. Just taking the top 25 ranking that turnit puts out (which I suspect is at least used as input into the seeding process):
#2 OFG
#4 Krazy
#10 Marblehead
#12 Drinkin
#14 WSI

Very easy to seed the CPL team 3rd no matter which one gets in.

That said, I was surprised that the bid wasn't just offered to Marblehead. Marblehead was the CPL Eastern champ, and even per the rankings shown above were the highest ranked CPL team aside from SFSF.
I don't hate the idea of a play-in game as a new precedent, though, as long as it's going to be used in all cases going forward.

Originally posted by NiborRis

I don't hate the idea of a play-in game as a new precedent, though, as long as it's going to be used in all cases going forward.

But that's pretty tricky. How do you decide which two teams that lost to the eventual champion get to play-in to the TOC? Why aren't the North Delta Huskies, who lost to SFSF by a 23 point margin in the 2nd round given the opportunity to play in instead of Drinkin' who lost to SFSF by 94?

Or the Prophecy who lost in the second round to Drinkin.

Mayan Prophecy imo.

Anyway, the idea of a play-in game as new precedent isn't terrible-- but it is when it's made on the fly like that for a fellow moderator's team (awfully suspicious and rightfully so). Make the rule now and enforce it later. You cant do it simultaneously.

Gart, I appreciate you having a clear opinion on this bullshit playin. Chris, I was slightly confused - I didn't know if you were for or against the play-in game.

I would really like to see other people post. Even more, I'd like the mod to have some courage and explain why he's doing this.

It does get even worse to me, as I understand there is a private forum of the ToC members, and whoever the mod is running this and apparently 1 other member were alone on an island saying Marblehead should not get in. I don't know - I have this probably 4th hand.

Gart, are 2 season back winners part of the committee? Can you say where the support was WITHOUT naming names?

This just seems totally unfair. Oh well.

Please, can others post here? Even if you think Drinkin should play. Jst say why.

Can't Send Challenge, but if WSI send I will accept.

I believe Drinkin will beat Marblehead by 28+ tbh

Originally posted by Resolute
Gart, I appreciate you having a clear opinion on this bullshit playin. Chris, I was slightly confused - I didn't know if you were for or against the play-in game.

I would really like to see other people post. Even more, I'd like the mod to have some courage and explain why he's doing this.

It does get even worse to me, as I understand there is a private forum of the ToC members, and whoever the mod is running this and apparently 1 other member were alone on an island saying Marblehead should not get in. I don't know - I have this probably 4th hand.

Gart, are 2 season back winners part of the committee? Can you say where the support was WITHOUT naming names?

This just seems totally unfair. Oh well.

Please, can others post here? Even if you think Drinkin should play. Jst say why.

I guess I will try to give some insight on this if I can.

At first the decision was that Drinkin should represent the CPL as the TOC contender based off this criteria

The contender must have won a league championship

Now with that being said I believe the previous situations and how league champions chose to decline and so forth really made a mess of the situation and such. I can't comment on that as I am not the one directly involved but what I can say is what the direction of the TOC wants to go in from my understanding.

As mentioned at start Drinkin was the team to go. As a competitive player and owner I understood the logic of being a champion of the league and still being a viable contender to play. But at the same time I felt due to our loss in the CCG that Drinkin was not supposed to go, but yet Marblehead should have got the nod. But this is not my rodeo and well I am just an owner on the team in the long run.

So I talked with Texanima the owner of Marblehead long before any of this became public to see where he stood with the idea and we talked in detail and I told him the stance of the tournament and such. A few days later he suggested an idea that would give the better team the shot at the tournament. And that was the play in game. Confused where to send his suggestion he asked me if I could pass along the info to the director. Now... with this in mind I could have sat on it and said too bad so sad but I am not like that as I like the idea of in a situation where a championship team guts the 2nd place team and previous representative of the TOC should have a play in game to see who gets in.

Sure you ask what if the team gutted, or the team is not good any more. Well then the play in game shouldn't be an issue then, should it?

Well.. w/e I pass this info on and at first it was not receptive to the notion but after a few talks and other peoples inputs (I won't name) they also took the same ground as some of you... maybe not as harsh or strong but they felt that if Marblehead doesn't get the nod then at least there should be a play in game. Much to my agreement of this that is what happened and from what I know will continue from this point on to happen in situations where its not cut and dry.

The reason TOC was so strong on that it had to be the League champion and not the conference champion is that the whole purpose of the tournament was derived from the pro league winners. And from my understanding the fact that Drinkin won in season 8 complicated things even more so the TOC stuck to their guns about the fact that its league winners and that in season 8 Marblehead did lose to Drinkin. Granted those who know, understand it was a lol game to begin with but an fun one to be involved with.

I will end my talk here about maybe some insight on the proceedings and at least my view on it.

/soapbox