Alright so my guess is that Agility is basically quickness/acceleration? Also another question is Speed the same for every position? IE: Is 50 Speed on a DT the same as 50 Speed on WR, or is it slower because of there size?
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* Agility is acceleration and ability to turn without losing alot of Speed.
* Weight is a factor in acceleration and top speed. Energy and morale are also factors.
* Weight is a factor in acceleration and top speed. Energy and morale are also factors.
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Originally posted by jdbolick
Speed is as big (and possibly even bigger) a factor as agility in acceleration.
false.
Speed is as big (and possibly even bigger) a factor as agility in acceleration.
false.
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Originally posted by Mightyhalo
Elaborate?
a guy with 100 speed and 50 agility has to creep up to top speed, then lose speed on cuts and turns a guy with 100speed 100 agility starts off at top speed when the play begins and remains at top speed through the cuts and turns the play calls for.
Mightyhalo for a guy as experienced as you, i would think it would be common knowledge by now.
Elaborate?
a guy with 100 speed and 50 agility has to creep up to top speed, then lose speed on cuts and turns a guy with 100speed 100 agility starts off at top speed when the play begins and remains at top speed through the cuts and turns the play calls for.
Mightyhalo for a guy as experienced as you, i would think it would be common knowledge by now.
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Originally posted by Underdawg08
a guy with 100 speed and 50 agility has to creep up to top speed, then lose speed on cuts and turns a guy with 100speed 100 agility starts off at top speed when the play begins and remains at top speed through the cuts and turns the play calls for. Mightyhalo for a guy as experienced as you, i would think it would be common knowledge by now.
I don't know if you came back strictly to confuse people with joke posts about SAs and sim mechanics, or if you really are this clueless, but please either go away again or stop posting bad information. In the case of this thread, you have no idea what you are talking about.
I am the one who did experiments on this very subject many seasons ago and released the data to the general public, and what I found is that a 3:1 speed : agility ratio has no problem accelerating to top speed over a short distance. I can't tell exactly what the split is between speed & agility in terms of acceleration because it is bounded by the upper speed limit, so it could be 50/50 even with three times as much speed allowing you to reach top speed within 10-15 yards.
Basically, a young dot with 100 speed / 70 agility will actually not get up to speed much faster than one with 100 speed / 33 agility if they're both traveling in a straight line. The higher agility one will get up to top speed about 2-3 yards earlier, which is not terribly significant. That's because speed alone is a powerful enough component in acceleration as to compensate for any lack of agility. That is not to say that agility is worthless, however. Far from it.
The most important thing agility does is to expand the angle at which you can make cuts, and to decrease the speed lost when doing so. The 100 speed / 33 agility dot showed hardly any difference from the 100 speed / 70 agility dot when traveling in largely the same direction, but the one with 33 agility showed crippling loss of speed when forced to make any significant change of direction. If I'm remembering correctly, about 50 or 60 agility was when the 100 speed dot could make cuts and maintain speed without looking like a runaway elephant, but the more agility you add, the sharper those cuts can become and the more speed is retained. 100 / 100 is not enough to retain all speed through cuts, but it's visibly better than 100 / 70 on the speed script.
And Underdog, in all seriousness, please stop confusing people with bad information. Again, I don't know if you're being dishonest or if you really just don't understand the game at all, but you need to cut it out.
a guy with 100 speed and 50 agility has to creep up to top speed, then lose speed on cuts and turns a guy with 100speed 100 agility starts off at top speed when the play begins and remains at top speed through the cuts and turns the play calls for. Mightyhalo for a guy as experienced as you, i would think it would be common knowledge by now.
I don't know if you came back strictly to confuse people with joke posts about SAs and sim mechanics, or if you really are this clueless, but please either go away again or stop posting bad information. In the case of this thread, you have no idea what you are talking about.
I am the one who did experiments on this very subject many seasons ago and released the data to the general public, and what I found is that a 3:1 speed : agility ratio has no problem accelerating to top speed over a short distance. I can't tell exactly what the split is between speed & agility in terms of acceleration because it is bounded by the upper speed limit, so it could be 50/50 even with three times as much speed allowing you to reach top speed within 10-15 yards.
Basically, a young dot with 100 speed / 70 agility will actually not get up to speed much faster than one with 100 speed / 33 agility if they're both traveling in a straight line. The higher agility one will get up to top speed about 2-3 yards earlier, which is not terribly significant. That's because speed alone is a powerful enough component in acceleration as to compensate for any lack of agility. That is not to say that agility is worthless, however. Far from it.
The most important thing agility does is to expand the angle at which you can make cuts, and to decrease the speed lost when doing so. The 100 speed / 33 agility dot showed hardly any difference from the 100 speed / 70 agility dot when traveling in largely the same direction, but the one with 33 agility showed crippling loss of speed when forced to make any significant change of direction. If I'm remembering correctly, about 50 or 60 agility was when the 100 speed dot could make cuts and maintain speed without looking like a runaway elephant, but the more agility you add, the sharper those cuts can become and the more speed is retained. 100 / 100 is not enough to retain all speed through cuts, but it's visibly better than 100 / 70 on the speed script.
And Underdog, in all seriousness, please stop confusing people with bad information. Again, I don't know if you're being dishonest or if you really just don't understand the game at all, but you need to cut it out.
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not worth it.
Edited by Underdawg08 on Aug 11, 2010 10:10:22
Edited by Underdawg08 on Aug 11, 2010 09:34:04
Edited by Underdawg08 on Aug 11, 2010 09:32:41
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Originally posted by jdbolick
Please stop posting.
Stop responding to me, stop flinging retorts at me.
Please stop posting.
Stop responding to me, stop flinging retorts at me.
Edited by Underdawg08 on Aug 11, 2010 10:12:31
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Originally posted by DONKEIDIC
3:1 Perfect?
No, the closer they are to each other the better. 3:1 was perfect in season 5 and 6. see above posts.
3:1 Perfect?
No, the closer they are to each other the better. 3:1 was perfect in season 5 and 6. see above posts.
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Originally posted by Underdawg08
Stop responding to me, stop flinging retorts at me. Stop thinking you can possibly know anything I don't already know about this game. I have access and can see some of the best builder's build in the game. Who do you think you're trying to act superior to?
You consistently make statements that are ludicrous, just like the one earlier in this thread when you claimed it was false that speed plays at least as big a part as agility in acceleration. Again, I do not know if you're giving out bad information because you think it's funny or because you actually are this clueless, and I don't particularly care. In either case, you need to stop posting.
Originally posted by DONKEIDIC
3:1 Perfect?
Yeah, he can't read.
Stop responding to me, stop flinging retorts at me. Stop thinking you can possibly know anything I don't already know about this game. I have access and can see some of the best builder's build in the game. Who do you think you're trying to act superior to?
You consistently make statements that are ludicrous, just like the one earlier in this thread when you claimed it was false that speed plays at least as big a part as agility in acceleration. Again, I do not know if you're giving out bad information because you think it's funny or because you actually are this clueless, and I don't particularly care. In either case, you need to stop posting.
Originally posted by DONKEIDIC
3:1 Perfect?
Yeah, he can't read.
Edited by jdbolick on Aug 11, 2010 09:39:51
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Originally posted by jdbolick
Please stop posting.
OH god dude, I am wasting my time with you. Level 72's in AAA, and a 2-4 canadian pro league team. GTFO.
Please stop posting.
OH god dude, I am wasting my time with you. Level 72's in AAA, and a 2-4 canadian pro league team. GTFO.
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Originally posted by Underdawg08
No, the closer they are to each other the better. 3:1 was perfect in season 5 and 6. see above posts.
3:1 has never been "perfect." You are trying to pretend like you have knowledge, but failing miserably because you didn't even begin to understand what I posted above. A 3:1 ratio means 100 speed : 33 agility. That is not perfect, and never has been. Again, please stop posting.
No, the closer they are to each other the better. 3:1 was perfect in season 5 and 6. see above posts.
3:1 has never been "perfect." You are trying to pretend like you have knowledge, but failing miserably because you didn't even begin to understand what I posted above. A 3:1 ratio means 100 speed : 33 agility. That is not perfect, and never has been. Again, please stop posting.
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