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THE PROBLEM:

As it currently stands right now, it is possible for a team in the bottom-tier of the league structure to make the playoffs, lose their first-round playoff game 213-0, and still get promoted straight up to Elite #1 or Elite #2 the following season, without having to spend any time in Competitive first.

Prime example: the Chimneyville Defenders in National Minor Elite #2. ( http://goallineblitz.com/game/team.pl?team_id=4780 ) Made the playoffs in the bottom rung last season, lost in the first round 213-0, and got promoted straight up to Elite #2. And did I mention they're a non-boosting team (I originally said slow-build by mistake) with an average level of 28, thrust into a league full of Level 46 players? They don't belong in Elite.

Neither do teams with empty or nearly-empty rosters, or teams with all-CPU or mostly-CPU rosters... they simply don't belong in Elite. Then there's the owners who sell their team on Day 43, after the script has already been run... they don't belong in Elite either.

I have plenty more examples too, and I'll post the whole list below, but let me propose my solution first.

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THE SOLUTION:

Every season, at some point after running the league-sort script on Day 42, have a real live person go through all of the Pro and Elite leagues and look for obvious "What the f---?" mis-matches that the script did. Pabst's Player Value To League Page greasemonkey script is very useful for this... I used that script to review all of the Pro and Elite leagues in the full-AI leagues last night and came up with the list you'll see below in about 90 minutes. If I can do this in 90 minutes, then it's do-able.

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THE REASONING:

Right now, the GLB staff relies on people filing Support tickets and on finding teams to swap with on their own. Problem is, there are cases where a team owner might be on vacation during the offseason and may not have been expecting to be promoted straight from the bottom rung up to Elite #1. And in the case of teams with empty rosters, if they're too lazy to recruit replacement players, they're probably also too lazy to send in a Support ticket to get moved out of Elite or find a team to swap with.

Sitting back and passively waiting for Support tickets is not working. GLB needs to take an active approach to this problem. It's clear at this point that the league-sort script isn't getting the job done, which is why a human touch is needed to finish things properly.

Relying on a computer to do a human's job is never wise.

(Edited to correct a couple of grammatical errors and one slight factual error.)
Edited by Novus on Jun 26, 2011 21:29:37
 
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Here's the full list of mis-matched teams I put together last night. Remember, it only took me 90 minutes to put this list together, and I did it while holding a sleeping baby. If I can do it, then Bort and Catch can spare a staffer to do it once every off-season.

Without further ado, here's the list!

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African Pro
http://goallineblitz.com/game/league.pl?league_id=83
2 CPU teams. Why not swap them out with 2 Regional Pro teams?

Eastern Europe Pro
http://goallineblitz.com/game/league.pl?league_id=11
1 team with an empty roster (P-Town Baby Bulls) and 1 team with just 1 human dot (The Legion's Stalingrad Gryphon Army). Again, why not swap them out with 2 Regional Pro teams?

Oceania Pro
http://goallineblitz.com/game/league.pl?league_id=17
1 CPU team, 1 team with an empty roster (Syracuse Synergy) and 1 team with just 1 human dot (All Good Things).

Southeast Asia Pro
http://goallineblitz.com/game/league.pl?league_id=13
1 CPU team, 1 team with an empty roster (NBA Jam Extreme), and 1 team (The Eye Of Horus) who got promoted straight from Regional Pro Competitive #6 to SE Asia Pro and skipped Elite despite losing in the 2nd round of the playoffs and despite being outleveled by 4 to 16 levels by every other team in their new league. Why didn't The Eye Of Horus get promoted up to just Regional Pro Elite to see if they could hack it there first before sending them up to Southeast Asia Pro to get slaughtered?

USA Pro
http://goallineblitz.com/game/league.pl?league_id=1
1 team with an empty roster (LUElinks LUEshis), and 1 team with only 12 dots on their roster (Tennessee Bandits).

Western Europe Pro
http://goallineblitz.com/game/league.pl?league_id=9
3 teams with woefully incomplete rosters: Metz Metal Militia (12 dots), Oslofjorden Seagulls (3 dots), and Philadelphia Marauders II (2 dots).

Regional Pro Elite #1
http://goallineblitz.com/game/league.pl?league_id=2
1 CPU team, 1 team with an empty roster (Fulham Flying Hoodfish), and a slow-build team (Genco Olive Oil) who got promoted from Regional Pro #11 straight up to Regional Pro Elite #1 and skipped Competitive despite having an average level of 38 when everyone else in their new league is in the 50s or higher.

Semi Pro Elite #1
http://goallineblitz.com/game/league.pl?league_id=26
1 team with an empty roster (Montreal Gaulois), plus two slow-build teams (Dubuque WarHawks and Indy Horseshoes) who got promoted from the bottom rung of National Minor straight up to the top rung of National Semi Pro and skipped Competitive despite the fact that they'll be outleveled by at least 13 levels in their new league.

National Minor Elite #1
http://goallineblitz.com/game/league.pl?league_id=37
1 team with an empty roster (Winnipeg Jets) and 1 team with only 11 dots (Malicious Bengals).

National Minor Elite #2
http://goallineblitz.com/game/league.pl?league_id=38
1 CPU team, 1 team with 1 dot (UND Fighting Sioux), 1 team with only 11 dot (Legion of Doom), and the Chimneyville Defenders, who clawed their way up into Elite #2 through a brilliant two-step method: make it to the playoffs in the bottom rung of Regional Minor, then lose in the first round of the playoffs 213-0. Yeah, they belong in Elite! Move 'em on up and skip Competitive!

Regional Minor Elite #1
http://goallineblitz.com/game/league.pl?league_id=137
1 team with 8 dots (So Cal Marauders), 1 team with 17 dots (Guam Turkeys), and Munqui Tribe, who jumped from the bottom rung of Local Minor straight up to Elite #1 in Regional Minor by making the playoffs and then losing in the 2nd round 252-7. No need to put them in Competitive... send 'em on up to Elite! They'll do fine! Who cares if they're out-leveled by at least 8?

Regional Minor Elite #2
http://goallineblitz.com/game/league.pl?league_id=138
1 team with 8 dots (Transylvania Pioneers), plus The Irrational Homeless Kittens who made the playoffs in the bottom rung of Local Minor and promptly lost 94-6 in the first round. They bypassed Competitive and went straight up to Elite #2, where they're outleveled by at least 12.

Local Minor Elite #1
http://goallineblitz.com/game/league.pl?league_id=145
1 team with an empty roster (Guahan Taotaomon'as), and 1 team with only 13 dots (North Dayton Black Rhinos).

Local Minor Elite #2
http://goallineblitz.com/game/league.pl?league_id=146
1 team with only 3 dots (Lost Island Smoke Monsters) and 1 team with only 6 dots (Auburn Trojans).

University Elite #2
http://goallineblitz.com/game/league.pl?league_id=100
1 team with only 2 dots (Nashville Snipers).

Prep Elite #1
http://goallineblitz.com/game/league.pl?league_id=203
1 team with an empty roster (Pain Gang).
 
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your hired!
 
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Originally posted by DTRAIN
your hired!


I'll do it for Flex. PM me to negotiate.
 
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Originally posted by Novus
I'll do it for Flex. PM me to negotiate.


I'd do it for free. It's that important to me and I think alot of players. Seeing lopsided divisions just kind of bums you out each season.
 
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would need to be done closer to rollover to the next season to account for player signings
 
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Originally posted by reddogrw
would need to be done closer to rollover to the next season to account for player signings


This... and +1
 
Novus
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Originally posted by reddogrw
would need to be done closer to rollover to the next season to account for player signings


As long as it gets done at some point. I won't quibble over the exact date.

Can't wait too long though, since moving one team down means moving another team up, and that team needs to have some notice to prepare.
 
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