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Well, it only took me 1 game to see that casual still doesn't have a time out plan for end of half....

OK, no link to the private sim....but I'll find some real games.....

Get the ball outside of 2 minutes, get the ball deep into opponent territory, but only call 1 time out and kick a FG...... inside the 5 yard line

Aug 8, 2012
- Adjusted timeout logic for first half to call timeouts later in general, and for a couple missing situations

Red River Rampage 2:37
2:37 Kickoff by A Good Day to Die Hard, 50 yd, fielded by Enrique Rosado (27.5 yd return) [diving tackle: Skippy Munrow]
2:29 1st & 10 OWN 48 RRR Zackary Childers pass to s30 RRR WR up the left side, caught (8.5 yd gain) [diving tackle: They Have an Army We Have a Hulk]
2:00 2nd & 1.5 OPP 43.5 RRR Zackary Childers pass to RRR_Ekko Triangle up the right side, caught (7 yd gain) [tackle: Abraham. Lincoln]
1:21 1st & 10 OPP 36.5 RRR Zackary Childers pass to SOLID WASTE OF FLEX DOWN THE JOHN KAPA'A up the right side, caught (9 yd gain) [tackle: I am a Leaf on the Wind... Watch How I Soar]
0:45 2nd & 1 OPP 27 RRR Zackary Childers pass to RRR Leroy Aldrich up the right side, caught (16 yd gain) [diving tackle: Marques Foss]
0:37 1st & 10 OPP 11.5 Offensive Timeout Called: Red River Rampage
0:37 1st & 10 OPP 11.5 RRR Zackary Childers pass to RRR Nicolas Funk up the right side, caught (5.5 yd gain) [tackle: Jerry Roush]
0:01 2nd & 4.5 OPP 5.5 22.5 yd field goal attempted by RRR Kasey Holley, made [FG]


Since the thread is locked for admin review, I can't add additional comments.....so I'll edit into here.

This private sim that a link can't be posted for is one that concerns me, it this is working as expected. Yes, we had a 1 point lead going into half...so we play for a FG from the 5.5 yard line with around 30 seconds to play (37 sec to start the last offensive snap)?

We end up losing the game by 4 points.

I understand there is a fine line between scoring with too much time on the clock and allowing the opponent time to score again, and not taking timeouts early enough, but what exactly is the sequence that allows 3 timeouts to be taken when getting close to scoring a TD at the end of the half?

In competitive games, this will be happening more often and will be a factor in deciding games.

Originally posted by Rikkhen

The team with the ball was ahead going into the half. That may have something to do with it but i am not sure. Example #2 diod call the TO when you got into fg range. Example #3 was almost the same. Was ahead going into the half.


Let's take a look at this....
- from example 2 - the timeout was NOT called when the team completed a 37 yard pass to the 17 yard line....waited until next play was over with 11 seconds to call a to.
- Charlestown was BEHIND at the half, end up losing by 1....kicked a FG at end of half after having the ball on the 17 with >45 seconds left...running only 2 more plays?

I'm not sure how this is working as intended.....
Edited by im4ut999 on Aug 11, 2012 15:03:59
Edited by Catch22 on Aug 11, 2012 14:17:51
 
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Charlestown Chiefs 3:10
3:10 1st & 10 OWN 16.5 R_R_R Russell screen pass to Johnson Titan to the left side, caught (0.5 yd gain) [diving tackle: William Clay Ford Sr] Replay
2:33 2nd & 9.5 OWN 16.5 R_R_R Russell pitch to Don Gately IV to the right (1 yd loss) [Big Hit diving tackle: Ronny #42 Lott] Replay
2:00 3rd & 10.5 OWN 16 R_R_R Russell pass to Catchin First Downs over the middle, caught (18 yd gain) [diving tackle: V C] Replay
1:32 1st & 10 OWN 33.5 R_R_R Russell pass to Blink and I'm Gone up the right side [deflected by Mitch Albom] (incomplete) Replay
1:27 2nd & 10 OWN 33.5 R_R_R Russell pass to Rev Bob Levy, hurried by Larry Page, over the middle, caught (12.5 yd gain) [diving tackle: Symon Phoenix] Replay
0:58 1st & 10 OWN 46 R_R_R Russell bad pass to Rev Bob Levy up the left side [deflected by William Clay Ford Sr] (incomplete - bad throw) Replay
0:55 2nd & 10 OWN 46 R_R_R Russell pass to *Michael Crabtree* up the right side, caught (37 yd gain) [tackle: Deion "Neon" Flanders] Replay
0:14 1st & 10 OPP 17 R_R_R Russell pass to Rev Bob Levy, hurried by T NT, over the middle, caught (3.5 yd gain) [tackle: Mitch Albom] Replay
0:11 2nd & 6.5 OPP 13.5 Offensive Timeout Called: Charlestown Chiefs Replay
0:11 2nd & 6.5 OPP 13.5 R_R_R Russell pass to Johnson Titan over the middle [deflected by Ronny #42 Lott] (incomplete) Replay
0:06 3rd & 6.5 OPP 13.5 30.5 yd field goal attempted by Alien Paul, made [FG]
 
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Austin Wineswilling Fancy Boys 1:47
1:47 Kickoff by Stephen "Big Foot" Gostkowski, 68 yd, fielded by That Man Returns (17.5 yd return) [tackle: Nightmare Street Runner] Replay
1:45 1st & 10 OWN 20 "Big" Joe Camel pass to Christy Coooooley, hurried by Kissy Lipps, over the middle, caught (37.5 yd gain) [tackle: "Neon" Deion Revis] Replay
1:04 1st & 10 OPP 42.5 "Big" Joe Camel pass to Marco Iannuzzi #87, hurried by Ahmed Stoddard, up the left side, caught (26.5 yd gain) [tackle: Incom Plete] Replay
0:20 1st & 10 OPP 16 33 yd field goal attempted by Anchor Baby, made [FG]
 
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The team with the ball was ahead going into the half. That may have something to do with it but i am not sure. Example #2 diod call the TO when you got into fg range. Example #3 was almost the same. Was ahead going into the half.
 
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Waiting on Bort to post the updated timeout logic so I can review before commenting but I'm fairly sure we're pretty good with how the timeout logic is. But I will review it first before coming to a final decision on whether we need to adjust it further. Will lock thread until that review is complete.
 
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Timeout logic was only calling timeout inside the 10 late when team had 3 time outs. I asked Bort to change that to any timeouts. Will open this thread - please report if it still does it.
 
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Originally posted by Catch22
Timeout logic was only calling timeout inside the 10 late when team had 3 time outs. I asked Bort to change that to any timeouts. Will open this thread - please report if it still does it.


That definitely will help....I'll keep an eye on it....thx. Is the half-time logic in the presets now so we can see them?

What about inside the 20? Anything look suspicious on this?

Originally posted by im4ut999

http://goallineblitz.com/game/game.pl?game_id=2146594&mode=pbp

0:55 2nd & 10 OWN 46 R_R_R Russell pass to *Michael Crabtree* up the right side, caught (37 yd gain) [tackle: Deion "Neon" Flanders] Replay
0:14 1st & 10 OPP 17 R_R_R Russell pass to Rev Bob Levy, hurried by T NT, over the middle, caught (3.5 yd gain) [tackle: Mitch Albom] Replay
0:11 2nd & 6.5 OPP 13.5 Offensive Timeout Called: Charlestown Chiefs Replay
0:11 2nd & 6.5 OPP 13.5 R_R_R Russell pass to Johnson Titan over the middle [deflected by Ronny #42 Lott] (incomplete) Replay
0:06 3rd & 6.5 OPP 13.5 30.5 yd field goal attempted by Alien Paul, made [FG]
Edited by im4ut999 on Aug 15, 2012 09:09:35
Edited by im4ut999 on Aug 15, 2012 09:08:41
 
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Originally posted by im4ut999
Originally posted by Catch22

Timeout logic was only calling timeout inside the 10 late when team had 3 time outs. I asked Bort to change that to any timeouts. Will open this thread - please report if it still does it.


That definitely will help....I'll keep an eye on it....thx. Is the half-time logic in the presets now so we can see them?

What about inside the 20? Anything look suspicious on this?

Originally posted by im4ut999


http://goallineblitz.com/game/game.pl?game_id=2146594&mode=pbp

0:55 2nd & 10 OWN 46 R_R_R Russell pass to *Michael Crabtree* up the right side, caught (37 yd gain) [tackle: Deion "Neon" Flanders] Replay
0:14 1st & 10 OPP 17 R_R_R Russell pass to Rev Bob Levy, hurried by T NT, over the middle, caught (3.5 yd gain) [tackle: Mitch Albom] Replay
0:11 2nd & 6.5 OPP 13.5 Offensive Timeout Called: Charlestown Chiefs Replay
0:11 2nd & 6.5 OPP 13.5 R_R_R Russell pass to Johnson Titan over the middle [deflected by Ronny #42 Lott] (incomplete) Replay
0:06 3rd & 6.5 OPP 13.5 30.5 yd field goal attempted by Alien Paul, made [FG]


That was the other thing we fixed. Reason time out wasn't called was because there was >45 seconds left after the end of the play and timeout logic only called timeouts in that situation when <45 seconds. Added a catch all for <60 seconds.
 
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Still something wrong....
 


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