I know Bort worked on zones and created delays but I'm not going to let this go that easy. Why should a player not move towards the play after the ball is in the hands of the RB? I think the delay added is just way to long to make any football sense.

http://goallineblitz.com/game/replay.pl?game_id=2146552&pbp_id=2133084
Obvious run play, CB and FS set to zone, but shouldn't they react once the ball is pitched. FS in shallow deep middle and CB in medium flat third.

http://goallineblitz.com/game/replay.pl?game_id=2146552&pbp_id=2133457 FS waits for RB to cross LOS to go towards runner. FS in medium weak half

http://goallineblitz.com/game/replay.pl?game_id=2146552&pbp_id=2133491 FS waits again. Shallow zone deep weak half

http://goallineblitz.com/game/replay.pl?game_id=2146552&pbp_id=2133583 FS waits again, same defense as above. Shallow zone deep weak half

http://goallineblitz.com/game/replay.pl?game_id=2146552&pbp_id=2134458 FS never reacts to the run. Medium zone deep weak half

http://goallineblitz.com/game/replay.pl?game_id=2146552&pbp_id=2134592 FS and SS never react, medium zone deep weak halfs

http://goallineblitz.com/game/replay.pl?game_id=2146552&pbp_id=2134930 FS waits to cross LOS, medium zone deep weak half

http://goallineblitz.com/game/replay.pl?game_id=2146552&pbp_id=2135091 FS and SS wait, medium zone deep weak half. FS may be is being blocked at the end. SS does wait until HB is at LOS.

As you see in that second link, if you put the Dot with a deep zone up closer to the LOS it does make the vision check more quickly. Otherwise, without knowing builds, how the highest vision builds are stacking up against the average and low vision, I think there isn't enough data to show if the check is too stiff or where it is best.

FSs have 95 to 100 vision and 9-10 in super vision.

I don't think that 8-13 yards off the LOS is starting to far back in some of the cases above.

Originally posted by voegma
FSs have 95 to 100 vision and 9-10 in super vision.

I don't think that 8-13 yards off the LOS is starting to far back in some of the cases above.

If that's the base vision, then the vision check probably needs a slight tweak. Problem is, Bort doesn't like to make changes once the season starts unless it's a bug.

I am not sure I would call it a bug but it definitely is ridiculous. I had at least two plays where players spent 10 clicks staring at a runner before doing anything, dots with 90 and 97 vision and points in superior vision SA NOT favoring the pass in tactics.

This after one of them instantly dropped into the zone rather than spending an iota of a second to see if the FB running his way was a receiver - the FB being his main assignment.

Already told you this was working as coded/intended. And just because a safety has 95 to 100 in vision and 9-10 in Super Vision does it mean they'll pass the vision check every time. If you can show me 20 out of 20 plays with a high vision safety performing that same behavior in a non deep zone then it's probably an issue. Pretty sure that's not the case here since I can look at my all zone team and see plenty of instances of the defenders reacting to the run in medium zones. Just some examples from game today:

http://goallineblitz.com/game/replay.pl?game_id=2121201&pbp_id=2346377
http://goallineblitz.com/game/replay.pl?game_id=2121201&pbp_id=2348237
http://goallineblitz.com/game/replay.pl?game_id=2121201&pbp_id=2348514

Bugs Mod can close as not a bug.

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