Warrior General Games

This spreadsheet shows the cost of offseason construction, and any time expansion. Also projected revenue from each section, both expanded and unexpanded.

Keep in mind that your ticket price will be based on your support. Just because team A can sale a club level seat for $200, doesn't mean team B will sale any at that price.

I've broken it down by individual sections.
IMO, build all the sections then expand.


http://spreadsheets.google.com/pub?key=p0LGpVYmjgeR8i7soXC4OSQ

Any chance of getting a downloadable version of it?

Originally posted by lyal_c
This spreadsheet shows the cost of offseason construction, and any time expansion. Also projected revenue from each section, both expanded and unexpanded.

Keep in mind that your ticket price will be based on your support. Just because team A can sale a club level seat for $200, doesn't mean team B will sale any at that price.

I've broken it down by individual sections.
IMO, build all the sections then expand.


http://spreadsheets.google.com/pub?key=p0LGpVYmjgeR8i7soXC4OSQ

I think it is more than opinion that early seat addition is a waste of money. The return on new sections is better than on individual seat addition when looked at from the perspective of the offseason. That said, adding seats in day 2 of the season does have some value.

Originally posted by nancywhiskey
Originally posted by lyal_c

This spreadsheet shows the cost of offseason construction, and any time expansion. Also projected revenue from each section, both expanded and unexpanded.

Keep in mind that your ticket price will be based on your support. Just because team A can sale a club level seat for $200, doesn't mean team B will sale any at that price.

I've broken it down by individual sections.
IMO, build all the sections then expand.


http://spreadsheets.google.com/pub?key=p0LGpVYmjgeR8i7soXC4OSQ

I think it is more than opinion that early seat addition is a waste of money. The return on new sections is better than on individual seat addition when looked at from the perspective of the offseason. That said, adding seats in day 2 of the season does have some value.

Can you elaborate Nancy? Or point to a link. I was under the assumption (from reading somewhere) that is't cheaper, easier, to build seats first. I don't have a team yet, but should get one next offseason. So I should have plenty of time to research this... about 45 days I guess.

I'll be honest, I never looked into it till the past couple days as I never thought I would be interested in ownership. Oh well things change. So any help would be appreciated. Especially regarding the first thing I should do regarding stadium expansion.

Originally posted by nancywhiskey

I think it is more than opinion that early seat addition is a waste of money. The return on new sections is better than on individual seat addition when looked at from the perspective of the offseason. That said, adding seats in day 2 of the season does have some value.

Those numbers do not include extra concessions, which is significant. Nor does it include playoffs.

Originally posted by DaRealest
Any chance of getting a downloadable version of it?

highlight the field
copy clip
paste in excel

You will have to add the grids and colors, and adjust column widths.

Originally posted by PackMan97
Originally posted by nancywhiskey


I think it is more than opinion that early seat addition is a waste of money. The return on new sections is better than on individual seat addition when looked at from the perspective of the offseason. That said, adding seats in day 2 of the season does have some value.

Those numbers do not include extra concessions, which is significant. Nor does it include playoffs.


I didn't included concessions because I don't see a way to track what sections, will sale what concessions. I would hope that adding club seats would raise the per seat concession average higher then a normal seat, but I don't have solid evidence.

Here are the reasons why I suggest building all the sections first then expanding:
1-The cost per seat is lower for construction then expansion.
2-You get more seats faster
3-You can only build one level per season (example: season 4 you build west 100 endzone, you have to wait for season 5 to build west 200 endzone. You can't order both sections for the same off season). If you have a very good season, you may be able to afford more sections then you can build.

lyal_c, first, let's find some common ground.

1 - Off-season construction is cheaper than expansion
2 - ALWAYS maximize off-season construction.

That said, it is very possible, if you expect your team to host playoff game(s) that you want to also aggressively purchase expansion seating. An extra game or two (with concessions included) can really throw off the cost/benefit analysis.

So, I would say to teams that are expecting to be one of the top teams in their conference and host a playoff game (or two) that they definitely want to purchase expansion seating while not compromising their ability to purchase off-season construction. That is really the key.

Of course, what do I know. The team I'm the Stadium GM for will have a 41k seat stadium in it's second year. I definitely agree that with a good season you can afford more sections than you can build...however I see nothing that can be done about that. It's a good problem to have.

Thanks, I've been looking for some of these prices for a while.

Does anybody know the 300 level sizes and prices??

Originally posted by PackMan97
lyal_c, first, let's find some common ground.

1 - Off-season construction is cheaper than expansion
2 - ALWAYS maximize off-season construction.

That said, it is very possible, if you expect your team to host playoff game(s) that you want to also aggressively purchase expansion seating. An extra game or two (with concessions included) can really throw off the cost/benefit analysis.

So, I would say to teams that are expecting to be one of the top teams in their conference and host a playoff game (or two) that they definitely want to purchase expansion seating while not compromising their ability to purchase off-season construction. That is really the key.

Of course, what do I know. The team I'm the Stadium GM for will have a 41k seat stadium in it's second year. I definitely agree that with a good season you can afford more sections than you can build...however I see nothing that can be done about that. It's a good problem to have.



Completly agree with 1 and 2.

And yes I see how hosting a few extra games can help to recoup the cost of expansion. However, you are talking "what ifs". Me personally, I wouldn't budget on "what ifs"

With risk comes reward (or not). Each owner should decide how aggressive they want to be and plan accordingly. I just want to make sure folks have the best information.

Every team is in a different situation and every owner has a different risk tolerance.

Originally posted by PackMan97
With risk comes reward (or not). Each owner should decide how aggressive they want to be and plan accordingly. I just want to make sure folks have the best information.

Every team is in a different situation and every owner has a different risk tolerance.

Agreed.

Just so everyone is clear. Build suggestions are just my opinions, do what's right for your team. Also, I will only post factual information. The speculative stuff I keep to myself.

i heard lvl 300 was 4.5 mil.

Originally posted by the man of doom
i heard lvl 300 was 4.5 mil.

thanks

it's also different expected prices based on your league.