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thehazyone
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I don't typically make bug reports unless I see something drastically wrong. My team won easily by over 100, which was expected, but what concerned me was the fact that there was absolutely no pass rush by my team when we outleveled our opponent (they were gutted earlier in the season) by nearly 20 levels. The first series there was some hurries but after that it was as if the level 9 and 10 tackles and guards were given super human strength as they consistently prevented any penetration from a DL that ranks 2nd in the league in hurries and sacks and has done this routinely against some good teams. Now we were up 35-0 after one and I understand that there is the "coasting" thing that should affect it somewhat, but to affect it this much is a bit much.

A few examples, but pretty much the entire 2nd quarter on looks like this:

http://goallineblitz.com/game/replay.pl?game_id=89031&pbp_id=6154805

http://goallineblitz.com/game/replay.pl?game_id=89031&pbp_id=6154835

http://goallineblitz.com/game/replay.pl?game_id=89031&pbp_id=6152552

http://goallineblitz.com/game/replay.pl?game_id=89031&pbp_id=6153566

http://goallineblitz.com/game/replay.pl?game_id=89031&pbp_id=6153617

http://goallineblitz.com/game/replay.pl?game_id=89031&pbp_id=6153688

http://goallineblitz.com/game/replay.pl?game_id=89031&pbp_id=6153733

http://goallineblitz.com/game/replay.pl?game_id=89031&pbp_id=6154506
 
Nixx
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We don't really know, maybe coasting does make that much of a difference. You still won by over 100 even though you couldn't get pressure on the QB.
 
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Originally posted by Nixx
We don't really know, maybe coasting does make that much of a difference. You still won by over 100 even though you couldn't get pressure on the QB.


Cruise control lowers your skills down in relation to the team you are playing, so you're basically playing a little above them in most abilities.
 
thehazyone
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Like I said, not complaining about the result, just trying to figure out why that happened. That was the most effective any one has blocked us all year long and you would figure it would be the exact opposite. We've played two other gutted teams this year, first time we won 191-0 we had 21 sacks and 33 hurries, so what has changed between now and then? And just two sims ago we won 152-0 and had 10 sacks and 24 hurries. Just doesn't make sense so I thought I'd report it.
 
thehazyone
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Originally posted by Bort
Originally posted by Nixx

We don't really know, maybe coasting does make that much of a difference. You still won by over 100 even though you couldn't get pressure on the QB.


Cruise control lowers your skills down in relation to the team you are playing, so you're basically playing a little above them in most abilities.


OK, I can accept that but why the change between the previous two games against gutted teams?

Also, when does cruise control kick in?

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Originally posted by thehazyone
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Originally posted by Nixx


We don't really know, maybe coasting does make that much of a difference. You still won by over 100 even though you couldn't get pressure on the QB.


Cruise control lowers your skills down in relation to the team you are playing, so you're basically playing a little above them in most abilities.


OK, I can accept that but why the change between the previous two games against gutted teams?

Also, when does cruise control kick in?



Dunno...could be related to the new stuff I uploaded I guess.

I forget the exact score difference, but I think it's currently set at +35.
 
thehazyone
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OK, thanks for the response, will be interesting to see how our pass rush is against a normal team then.
 
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I'm not sure I understand what the point of nerfing teams like this is. Is it to make the lesser team feel better? It's pretty frustrating as a coordinator seeing your tactics become unused and ineffective just because you have a lead.
 
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Originally posted by Rayn21
I'm not sure I understand what the point of nerfing teams like this is. Is it to make the lesser team feel better? It's pretty frustrating as a coordinator seeing your tactics become unused and ineffective just because you have a lead.


its so all your players don't take a 40 energy hit and get screwed for the next game.
 
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It also completely hoses their stats for that game though; there needs to be some better trade off there.
 
SoCalWhoDat
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I certainly don't see my HB playing worse when we go up by 100 points.
 
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Originally posted by sleepingazure
I certainly don't see my HB playing worse when we go up by 100 points.


A key problem with cruise control...

By the time it kicks in, the defensive line and LBs are demoralized beyond belief and probably tired to boot, making them even less effective. Its especially bad since most teams try to run out the game when they're up big, further pressuring the defensive line and LBs of the opponent.
 
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Originally posted by Rayn21
I'm not sure I understand what the point of nerfing teams like this is. Is it to make the lesser team feel better? It's pretty frustrating as a coordinator seeing your tactics become unused and ineffective just because you have a lead.


A triple digit victiory should salve your wound, I would think.

The coasting mode was a needed and appreciated improvement in my book. Otherwise your special teams and offense run down to zero energy becuase they play too much.

I am still trying to figure out why you would feel frustrated about your tactics being "ineffective" when you are winning by a landslide, but each to his own I guess...
 
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