What rock have folks been under? Carrying is the #1 skill for reducing drops. Catching increases your range and yes makes short-range grabs easier, but depending on your QB a big catch radius can actually increase your # of drops.
Forum > Goal Line Blitz > Does Carrying help reduce drops?
Sarg01
offline
offline
Originally posted by Oren74
So, basically, a good WR needs
SPD
AGI
Catching
Carrying
Vision
Confidence
Jumping
Stamina
You forgot Strength and Blocking. If a WR can't block, he's got no business being in the starting lineup.
So, basically, a good WR needs
SPD
AGI
Catching
Carrying
Vision
Confidence
Jumping
Stamina
You forgot Strength and Blocking. If a WR can't block, he's got no business being in the starting lineup.
Oren74
offline
offline
Originally posted by Sarg01
What rock have folks been under? Carrying is the #1 skill for reducing drops. Catching increases your range and yes makes short-range grabs easier, but depending on your QB a big catch radius can actually increase your # of drops.
Not that I don't believe you, but do you have a post from Bort...or even a sticky'd FAQ that has this info?
What rock have folks been under? Carrying is the #1 skill for reducing drops. Catching increases your range and yes makes short-range grabs easier, but depending on your QB a big catch radius can actually increase your # of drops.
Not that I don't believe you, but do you have a post from Bort...or even a sticky'd FAQ that has this info?
Originally posted by Oren74
Originally posted by superpunk
Noone knows. Carry on.
Can you provide proof of your analysis or data on your GLB agent survey to prove this?
Didn't think so. thanks for the bump anyway
Can you provide proof of your analysis or data on your GLB agent survey to prove that the following are the only and the exact attributes a WR needs?
SPD
AGI
Catching
Carrying
Vision
Confidence
Jumping
Stamina
Because I gotta be honest, I have seen more than a few high strength WR's work wonders. But then again that would knock you down from that high horse you sit on and make you actually think.
Originally posted by superpunk
Noone knows. Carry on.
Can you provide proof of your analysis or data on your GLB agent survey to prove this?
Didn't think so. thanks for the bump anyway
Can you provide proof of your analysis or data on your GLB agent survey to prove that the following are the only and the exact attributes a WR needs?
SPD
AGI
Catching
Carrying
Vision
Confidence
Jumping
Stamina
Because I gotta be honest, I have seen more than a few high strength WR's work wonders. But then again that would knock you down from that high horse you sit on and make you actually think.
Oren74
offline
offline
Originally posted by Oren74
Originally posted by Sarg01
What rock have folks been under? Carrying is the #1 skill for reducing drops. Catching increases your range and yes makes short-range grabs easier, but depending on your QB a big catch radius can actually increase your # of drops.
Not that I don't believe you, but do you have a post from Bort...or even a sticky'd FAQ that has this info?
Originally posted by Sarg01
What rock have folks been under? Carrying is the #1 skill for reducing drops. Catching increases your range and yes makes short-range grabs easier, but depending on your QB a big catch radius can actually increase your # of drops.
Not that I don't believe you, but do you have a post from Bort...or even a sticky'd FAQ that has this info?
kurieg
offline
offline
From Bort way back when (check the Skills guide by DD)
Originally posted by Bort
Catching determines if he gets control of the ball from a pass. Carrying determines if he holds onto it when getting tackled, including getting tackled right right after catching it.
Were you looking for more than this? Because Bort never gives out the formulas.
EDIT - http://goallineblitz.com/game/forum_thread.pl?thread_id=125&page=3
Originally posted by Bort
Catching determines if he gets control of the ball from a pass. Carrying determines if he holds onto it when getting tackled, including getting tackled right right after catching it.
Were you looking for more than this? Because Bort never gives out the formulas.
EDIT - http://goallineblitz.com/game/forum_thread.pl?thread_id=125&page=3
Last edited Sep 16, 2008 11:08:31
Mobius
offline
offline
Wouldn't it make sense that the sim would have some sort of transition phase from catching to carry for YAC? If the defender hits the receiver anytime during this short phase the ball could get dislodged causing a drop or incomplete?
Originally posted by Mobius
Wouldn't it make sense that the sim would have some sort of transition phase from catching to carry for YAC? If the defender hits the receiver anytime during this short phase the ball could get dislodged causing a drop or incomplete?
If you watch enough replays you will see WR's dropping the ball from getting touched right after catching it, so you're right on the money.
Wouldn't it make sense that the sim would have some sort of transition phase from catching to carry for YAC? If the defender hits the receiver anytime during this short phase the ball could get dislodged causing a drop or incomplete?
If you watch enough replays you will see WR's dropping the ball from getting touched right after catching it, so you're right on the money.
Mob-6
offline
offline
Originally posted by kurieg
From Bort way back when (check the Skills guide by DD)
Originally posted by Bort
Carrying determines if he holds onto it when getting tackled, including getting tackled right right after catching it.
Dropping a ball after catching it is called a fumble.
Carrying does not help with drops. Get over the semantics of the title for the training. Coverage drills train vision and jumping, so you'd think based off the title that a CB should only train these two attributes because their sole job is to cover people. Just accept that there isn't a better name and that carrying won't help with drops.
From Bort way back when (check the Skills guide by DD)
Originally posted by Bort
Carrying determines if he holds onto it when getting tackled, including getting tackled right right after catching it.
Dropping a ball after catching it is called a fumble.
Carrying does not help with drops. Get over the semantics of the title for the training. Coverage drills train vision and jumping, so you'd think based off the title that a CB should only train these two attributes because their sole job is to cover people. Just accept that there isn't a better name and that carrying won't help with drops.
Sarg01
offline
offline
Originally posted by Oren74
Originally posted by Sarg01
What rock have folks been under? Carrying is the #1 skill for reducing drops. Catching increases your range and yes makes short-range grabs easier, but depending on your QB a big catch radius can actually increase your # of drops.
Not that I don't believe you, but do you have a post from Bort...or even a sticky'd FAQ that has this info?
Bort doesn't give out precise info on the formulas. Most of my info comes from monitoring various forums, and then advising people on their builds (or modifying my own builds where appropriate). Most catches are in traffic, and Bort is on the record saying Carrying helps with getting hit while catching.
I'm not suggesting people should be capping carrying, by the way. Your goal shouldn't be eliminating drops ... I doubt that's even possible. It should be spending your points in the most efficient manner possible. If your Carrying is artificially low - because it's been ignored, for instance - then it is an excellent place for a 5-10 point improvement, especially if your majors are capped.
Originally posted by Sarg01
What rock have folks been under? Carrying is the #1 skill for reducing drops. Catching increases your range and yes makes short-range grabs easier, but depending on your QB a big catch radius can actually increase your # of drops.
Not that I don't believe you, but do you have a post from Bort...or even a sticky'd FAQ that has this info?
Bort doesn't give out precise info on the formulas. Most of my info comes from monitoring various forums, and then advising people on their builds (or modifying my own builds where appropriate). Most catches are in traffic, and Bort is on the record saying Carrying helps with getting hit while catching.
I'm not suggesting people should be capping carrying, by the way. Your goal shouldn't be eliminating drops ... I doubt that's even possible. It should be spending your points in the most efficient manner possible. If your Carrying is artificially low - because it's been ignored, for instance - then it is an excellent place for a 5-10 point improvement, especially if your majors are capped.
Last edited Sep 16, 2008 11:21:57
kurieg
offline
offline
Originally posted by Mob-6
Originally posted by kurieg
From Bort way back when (check the Skills guide by DD)
Originally posted by Bort
Carrying determines if he holds onto it when getting tackled, including getting tackled right right after catching it.
Dropping a ball after catching it is called a fumble.
Carrying does not help with drops. Get over the semantics of the title for the training. Coverage drills train vision and jumping, so you'd think based off the title that a CB should only train these two attributes because their sole job is to cover people. Just accept that there isn't a better name and that carrying won't help with drops.
Bort just posted on it again. You should revisit what you think you know from watching PBPs.
Originally posted by kurieg
From Bort way back when (check the Skills guide by DD)
Originally posted by Bort
Carrying determines if he holds onto it when getting tackled, including getting tackled right right after catching it.
Dropping a ball after catching it is called a fumble.
Carrying does not help with drops. Get over the semantics of the title for the training. Coverage drills train vision and jumping, so you'd think based off the title that a CB should only train these two attributes because their sole job is to cover people. Just accept that there isn't a better name and that carrying won't help with drops.
Bort just posted on it again. You should revisit what you think you know from watching PBPs.
Deathblade
offline
offline
Originally posted by Bort
Originally posted by Mobius
Wouldn't it make sense that the sim would have some sort of transition phase from catching to carry for YAC? If the defender hits the receiver anytime during this short phase the ball could get dislodged causing a drop or incomplete?
If you watch enough replays you will see WR's dropping the ball from getting touched right after catching it, so you're right on the money.
Ding ding ding.
/thread
Originally posted by Mobius
Wouldn't it make sense that the sim would have some sort of transition phase from catching to carry for YAC? If the defender hits the receiver anytime during this short phase the ball could get dislodged causing a drop or incomplete?
If you watch enough replays you will see WR's dropping the ball from getting touched right after catching it, so you're right on the money.
Ding ding ding.
/thread
Oren74
offline
offline
Originally posted by Bort
Originally posted by Mobius
Wouldn't it make sense that the sim would have some sort of transition phase from catching to carry for YAC? If the defender hits the receiver anytime during this short phase the ball could get dislodged causing a drop or incomplete?
If you watch enough replays you will see WR's dropping the ball from getting touched right after catching it, so you're right on the money.
Thanks Bort!
Originally posted by Mobius
Wouldn't it make sense that the sim would have some sort of transition phase from catching to carry for YAC? If the defender hits the receiver anytime during this short phase the ball could get dislodged causing a drop or incomplete?
If you watch enough replays you will see WR's dropping the ball from getting touched right after catching it, so you're right on the money.
Thanks Bort!
PackMan97
offline
offline
You "catch" a ball and get hit and still end up with an incomplete pass. Catching != Completion.
Originally posted by Mob-6
Originally posted by kurieg
From Bort way back when (check the Skills guide by DD)
Originally posted by Bort
Carrying determines if he holds onto it when getting tackled, including getting tackled right right after catching it.
Dropping a ball after catching it is called a fumble.
Carrying does not help with drops. Get over the semantics of the title for the training. Coverage drills train vision and jumping, so you'd think based off the title that a CB should only train these two attributes because their sole job is to cover people. Just accept that there isn't a better name and that carrying won't help with drops.
He's arguing with Bort about how the game works? CLASSIC!
Originally posted by kurieg
From Bort way back when (check the Skills guide by DD)
Originally posted by Bort
Carrying determines if he holds onto it when getting tackled, including getting tackled right right after catching it.
Dropping a ball after catching it is called a fumble.
Carrying does not help with drops. Get over the semantics of the title for the training. Coverage drills train vision and jumping, so you'd think based off the title that a CB should only train these two attributes because their sole job is to cover people. Just accept that there isn't a better name and that carrying won't help with drops.
He's arguing with Bort about how the game works? CLASSIC!
You are not logged in. Please log in if you want to post a reply.
