Warrior General Games

Originally posted by Wavy77
I noticed that most home games were sold out. Would the new tickets be sold on match-day or before that?

Tickets get sold daily at night. So if you put the new seats in today, they'll sell for tomorrow's game and onward (I added seats yesterday after they had already run everything, and they were sold out for today's game).

It seems like you guys are assuming that all seats get sold. Is that correct? does anyone have kind of a probability of sale of the seats?

As long as you keep them around expected prices, they seem to sell. I just started the team, added a new section, added seats. Kept the prices as expected and I've sold out my first 2 games.

Pretty sure I have the largest stadium in the game, I figure I will make about 3-3.5M a game this season .. take that for what its worth. I was making over 2M per playoff game last season and only had like 12k seats (the max) now I have a full lower bowl and max seating at about 29k seats. Made a mistake on my initial ticket pricing and made 12M on about 5 games in tickets, so Ill come under the 3M for those games, but from here on out 3-4.

Wow, very nice. But I think this team's got you beat http://goallineblitz.com/game/stadium.pl?team_id=88

It appears as though they do ;D

I think that guy is a player dealer so I guess thats where he got all the cash, he signs and deals humans .. I have never traded a human, just released people.

I guess if I was a flesh peddler I could do a little better ;/

But good for him for working hard with that, because thats a nice stadium.

Does it make sense to add some seats, then wait and see how ticket sales are before you add more, or would that be more expensive?

You have almost 3M .. so depending on your roster situation and how much you need to spend I figure that you could spend like 1-1.5M on seats right now and still be able to pay your players even before any more ticket sales or concession sales this season.

More seats=more tickets and more concessions .. they dont pay themselves off immediately, but you might as well invest so you have more money later, at least that is my thinking.

Originally posted by Mrstickball

"Day 1": Buy $1,000,000 in SL-100 Seating, Tickets sell at $45/ea. Sell said tickets for a profit of $360,000.

"Day 2": Re-invest $360,000 in more SL-100 expansion seating. Yadda yadda yadda. Sell tickets for $129,000

"Day 3": Re-invest $129,000 in more SL-100 expansion seating. Sell tickets for $46,656

"Day 4": Re-Invest $46,000 in more SL-100 expansion seating. Sell tickets for $16,796



Quick point of reference. Profit is not the same thing as revenue. What you indicate up above is that for spending $1M, you gain $360K in Profit. Not true.

You gain $360K in revenue, but you are still in the hole -$640K. In order to gain $360K in profit, you would need to generate $1,360,000 in revenue. According to your model:

1,000 seats for $1M in cost. Sell seats for $45ea. =$45,000/game X 8 games. Revenue = $360,000, with -$640K in costs still unrecovered.

Spend $360K on 360 more seats, to be sold @$45/ea. Revenue generated = $129K, with -$231 unrecovered.

By the end of day 2, you have $671K in costs for the current season still unrecovered. The more seats you add, the deeper the whole gets. It is not a bad investment, since it will ultimately pay for itself in 2-3 seasons (not considereing playoff revenues from ticket sales.) Concessions will help, but season 1 indicated concessions were bought up by at most 35% of the total attendance, at least for my team.

In any event, calling the additional revenues "profit" is entirely incorrect, profit is the positive delta between revenue and costs.

Stinky, you are correct in my error of naming revenue. I apologize.

I don't know if it was just a fluke yesterday, but I sold tickets 2-3 times yesterday. Was this because of the errors with double-ticket sales?

Also, about selling out: if you sell out rather quickly, I would indeed advise expanding your SL seating as quickly as possible. I've maxed out my 100-SL, 100 Club, and added 160 seats to my corner seating. Outside of the most recent purchase of 160 corner seats, every game has been sold out up till game #5.

But at any rate, my charts were just to demonstrate if you should, or should not, wait for Season 3 to buy expansion seating.

No worries, mate!

They processed ticket sales a few times yesterday to give people an influx of $$$.

My understanding is that from now on, tix sales will only be done on the usual overnight update.

Sorry to ask, can't find this anywhere in stone- are the 200 and 300 level sections also the same price to add seats (not sections)?

And add one more silly question- has anyone tracked a breakdown of what types of seats you get and their max outs for various sections? That would be very useful to have added to some sort of stadium sticky.

Sorry for a double post- but I think it's separate.

I can't figure out how the ROIs are so high. Using one seat as an example, if I add one seat to my 100 sideline at $10,000, and my ticket price is $55, my net loss after 8 games is $9,560. I found that my break even (at $55 for the seat) is 181.8 games- 22.7 seasons (assuming no playoffs). Can someone please explain to me how I'd get 36% ROI? That to me (and I'm probably wrong in my thoughts) would mean that I was selling the tickets for $450, assuming 8 games.

Originally posted by Asher413
Sorry for a double post- but I think it's separate.

I can't figure out how the ROIs are so high. Using one seat as an example, if I add one seat to my 100 sideline at $10,000, and my ticket price is $55, my net loss after 8 games is $9,560. I found that my break even (at $55 for the seat) is 181.8 games- 22.7 seasons (assuming no playoffs). Can someone please explain to me how I'd get 36% ROI? That to me (and I'm probably wrong in my thoughts) would mean that I was selling the tickets for $450, assuming 8 games.

You forgot to multiply the price by 100 (because you bought 100 seats for $100,000). So it would be $55 * 100 * 8 = $44,000 in a season. So you should break even in less than 3 seasons.

Originally posted by scarletmbb
Originally posted by Asher413

Sorry for a double post- but I think it's separate.

I can't figure out how the ROIs are so high. Using one seat as an example, if I add one seat to my 100 sideline at $10,000, and my ticket price is $55, my net loss after 8 games is $9,560. I found that my break even (at $55 for the seat) is 181.8 games- 22.7 seasons (assuming no playoffs). Can someone please explain to me how I'd get 36% ROI? That to me (and I'm probably wrong in my thoughts) would mean that I was selling the tickets for $450, assuming 8 games.

You forgot to multiply the price by 100 (because you bought 100 seats for $100,000). So it would be $55 * 100 * 8 = $44,000 in a season. So you should break even in less than 3 seasons.

Ah- thank you!