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Gart888
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How about this?

Start with the top two teams from each conference, then each season move the bottom 8 teams down, and move one team from each conference up.

That way if a league is truly better, it will naturally send more teams up to the world league, by way of avoiding relegations. Every conference is still guaranteed at least one team in the world league each season. .
 
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Gart you are a genius....

3 cheers for Gart....

HIP HIP!!!
 
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Originally posted by cowtesticles2001
Gart you are a genius....


Honestly...

The first time I've heard that.
 
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Originally posted by Gart888
How about this?

Start with the top two teams from each conference, then each season move the bottom 8 teams down, and move one team from each conference up.

That way if a league is truly better, it will naturally send more teams up to the world league, by way of avoiding relegations. Every conference is still guaranteed at least one team in the world league each season. .


The idea is great.

Just one problem: how do you make room if a certain conference sends 1 team up and get two teams relegated? That would lead to continent switching, which goes against this:

Originally posted by Bort

(don't worry, we'll keep track of your original region if you move up and get demoted later)."
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Originally posted by Rodion
Originally posted by Gart888

How about this?

Start with the top two teams from each conference, then each season move the bottom 8 teams down, and move one team from each conference up.

That way if a league is truly better, it will naturally send more teams up to the world league, by way of avoiding relegations. Every conference is still guaranteed at least one team in the world league each season. .


The idea is great.

Just one problem: how do you make room if a certain conference sends 1 team up and get two teams relegated? That would leade to continent switching, which goes against this:

Originally posted by Bort


(don't worry, we'll keep track of your original region if you move up and get demoted later)."


Hmmm you're right, that is a bit of a problem.

A simple fix would be to just relegate one extra team from the pro conferences that would be getting more than one team relegated down to them. If you're 13th in the conference and get relegated, it sucks, but them's the breaks for playing in a pro league that couldn't support so many world league teams... you didn't really deserve to be in the pro's anyway.

You could easily keep passing down the extra relegation until you ran into a conference with CPU teams not in the bottom 2.
 
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Originally posted by robponce
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Gart you are a genius....


Honestly...

The first time I've heard that.


Sarcasm?

 
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Originally posted by Gart888
Originally posted by Rodion

Originally posted by Gart888


How about this?

Start with the top two teams from each conference, then each season move the bottom 8 teams down, and move one team from each conference up.

That way if a league is truly better, it will naturally send more teams up to the world league, by way of avoiding relegations. Every conference is still guaranteed at least one team in the world league each season. .


The idea is great.

Just one problem: how do you make room if a certain conference sends 1 team up and get two teams relegated? That would leade to continent switching, which goes against this:

Originally posted by Bort



(don't worry, we'll keep track of your original region if you move up and get demoted later)."


Hmmm you're right, that is a bit of a problem.

A simple fix would be to just relegate one extra team from the pro conferences that would be getting more than one team relegated down to them. If you're 13th in the conference and get relegated, it sucks, but them's the breaks for playing in a pro league that couldn't support so many world league teams... you didn't really deserve to be in the pro's anyway.

You could easily keep passing down the extra relegation until you ran into a conference with CPU teams not in the bottom 2.


If an extra Pro team goes to AAA, an extra AAA team will go to AA, leading to an extra AA team going to A and an extra A team going to BBB (provided there is a BBB league already on that continent). Anyway, if you relegate an extra team to the A/BBB league, you'll still need to create room somewhere. Unless you send an A/BBB team to the another continent.
 
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Originally posted by Rodion
Originally posted by Gart888

Originally posted by Rodion


Originally posted by Gart888



How about this?

Start with the top two teams from each conference, then each season move the bottom 8 teams down, and move one team from each conference up.

That way if a league is truly better, it will naturally send more teams up to the world league, by way of avoiding relegations. Every conference is still guaranteed at least one team in the world league each season. .


The idea is great.

Just one problem: how do you make room if a certain conference sends 1 team up and get two teams relegated? That would leade to continent switching, which goes against this:

Originally posted by Bort




(don't worry, we'll keep track of your original region if you move up and get demoted later)."


Hmmm you're right, that is a bit of a problem.

A simple fix would be to just relegate one extra team from the pro conferences that would be getting more than one team relegated down to them. If you're 13th in the conference and get relegated, it sucks, but them's the breaks for playing in a pro league that couldn't support so many world league teams... you didn't really deserve to be in the pro's anyway.

You could easily keep passing down the extra relegation until you ran into a conference with CPU teams not in the bottom 2.


If an extra Pro team goes to AAA, an extra AAA team will go to AA, leading to an extra AA team going to A and an extra A team going to BBB (provided there is a BBB league already on that continent). Anyway, if you relegate an extra team to the A/BBB league, you'll still need to create room somewhere. Unless you send an A/BBB team to the another continent.


Or you send one of those CPU teams not in the bottom two you mentioned to the other continent and readjust their levels, if needed.
 
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Originally posted by Rodion
Originally posted by Gart888

Originally posted by Rodion


Originally posted by Gart888



How about this?

Start with the top two teams from each conference, then each season move the bottom 8 teams down, and move one team from each conference up.

That way if a league is truly better, it will naturally send more teams up to the world league, by way of avoiding relegations. Every conference is still guaranteed at least one team in the world league each season. .


The idea is great.

Just one problem: how do you make room if a certain conference sends 1 team up and get two teams relegated? That would leade to continent switching, which goes against this:

Originally posted by Bort




(don't worry, we'll keep track of your original region if you move up and get demoted later)."


Hmmm you're right, that is a bit of a problem.

A simple fix would be to just relegate one extra team from the pro conferences that would be getting more than one team relegated down to them. If you're 13th in the conference and get relegated, it sucks, but them's the breaks for playing in a pro league that couldn't support so many world league teams... you didn't really deserve to be in the pro's anyway.

You could easily keep passing down the extra relegation until you ran into a conference with CPU teams not in the bottom 2.


If an extra Pro team goes to AAA, an extra AAA team will go to AA, leading to an extra AA team going to A and an extra A team going to BBB (provided there is a BBB league already on that continent). Anyway, if you relegate an extra team to the A/BBB league, you'll still need to create room somewhere. Unless you send an A/BBB team to the another continent.


You're telling me there's going to be an entire region without a single team going CPU and not placing bottom 2?

Or if there somehow is, there won't be any CPU team in the bottom rungs of each region that could just be removed?

edit: like you just said, you could move some CPU teams around at the bottom to solve any problems you end up having.
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Incredible idea, id love a World League.
 
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Originally posted by Gart888
Originally posted by Rodion

Originally posted by Gart888


Originally posted by Rodion



Originally posted by Gart888




How about this?

Start with the top two teams from each conference, then each season move the bottom 8 teams down, and move one team from each conference up.

That way if a league is truly better, it will naturally send more teams up to the world league, by way of avoiding relegations. Every conference is still guaranteed at least one team in the world league each season. .


The idea is great.

Just one problem: how do you make room if a certain conference sends 1 team up and get two teams relegated? That would leade to continent switching, which goes against this:

Originally posted by Bort





(don't worry, we'll keep track of your original region if you move up and get demoted later)."


Hmmm you're right, that is a bit of a problem.

A simple fix would be to just relegate one extra team from the pro conferences that would be getting more than one team relegated down to them. If you're 13th in the conference and get relegated, it sucks, but them's the breaks for playing in a pro league that couldn't support so many world league teams... you didn't really deserve to be in the pro's anyway.

You could easily keep passing down the extra relegation until you ran into a conference with CPU teams not in the bottom 2.


If an extra Pro team goes to AAA, an extra AAA team will go to AA, leading to an extra AA team going to A and an extra A team going to BBB (provided there is a BBB league already on that continent). Anyway, if you relegate an extra team to the A/BBB league, you'll still need to create room somewhere. Unless you send an A/BBB team to the another continent.


You're telling me there's going to be an entire region without a single team going CPU and not placing bottom 2?

Or if there somehow is, there won't be any CPU team in the bottom rungs of each region that could just be removed?

edit: like you just said, you could move some CPU teams around at the bottom to solve any problems you end up having.


Yeah, idea sounds perfect now. Whenever we reach that CPU team (on that extra relegation region), we send it to an extra promotion league (an extra AAA team can get promoted to Pro, an extra AA to AAA and so on, sending that CPU team to the bottom of its new region).
 
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Two World Conferences. East and West.

Fill the West with the following teams:
Top 4 US Pro
3 Can Pro
2 SA Pro
2 Oc Pro
2 WE Pro
1 EE Pro
1 Afr Pro
1 SEA Pro

(or rank the Pro leagues however you want, I don't pay attn outside USA)

Each season, each Pro Conference Winner moves into the pro league. The team that came from that conference originally goes back down, or in the case of the Leagues with multiples, the lowest ranked one.

EXCEPTION: If the team finished in the top 6, they don't go down. That League would then gain an extra team into the World League for that season, and the lowest ranked team in the league not already slated to be demoted, would instead get the demotion.

Example:
Here are the final standings.
US1
Can1
Af1
EE1
US2
US3
Can2
SA1
OC1
OC2
SEA1
Can3
US4
WE1
WE2
SA2

The demoted teams would be:
SA2, WEE2, US4, Can3, OC2, SEA1. AF1 and EE1 earned the right to stay with top 6 performances. They stay and instead WE1 and OC1 would be demoted.

The new league composition would be
US4
Can3
AF2
EE2
SA2
WE1
SEA1
OC1

As leagues get more powerful, they are sending better teams to the World league, and their representation there increases.

Some shuffling would be required at the Pro level. In the example WE and OC are sending up one and sending down two, so the Pro league would have to demote a third team from their conference that season.






Last edited Mar 29, 2009 23:17:21
 
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Originally posted by Gart888
How about this?

Start with the top two teams from each conference, then each season move the bottom 8 teams down, and move one team from each conference up.

That way if a league is truly better, it will naturally send more teams up to the world league, by way of avoiding relegations. Every conference is still guaranteed at least one team in the world league each season. .


Bingo. Pro League champs get moved up each season. In the initial season, the two teams that MAKE the championship get there, but only winners promote from that point forward.
 
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Originally posted by The Duff Man
Two World Conferences. East and West.

Fill the West with the following teams:
Top 4 US Pro
3 Can Pro
2 SA Pro
2 Oc Pro
2 WE Pro
1 EE Pro
1 Afr Pro
1 SEA Pro

(or rank the Pro leagues however you want, I don't pay attn outside USA)

Each season, each Pro Conference Winner moves into the pro league. The team that came from that conference originally goes back down, or in the case of the Leagues with multiples, the lowest ranked one.

EXCEPTION: If the team finished in the top 6, they don't go down. That League would then gain an extra team into the World League for that season, and the lowest ranked team in the league not already slated to be demoted, would instead get the demotion.

Example:
Here are the final standings.
US1
Can1
Af1
EE1
US2
US3
Can2
SA1
OC1
OC2
SEA1
Can3
US4
WE1
WE2
SA2

The demoted teams would be:
SA2, WEE2, US4, Can3, OC2, SEA1. AF1 and EE1 earned the right to stay with top 6 performances. They stay and instead WE1 and OC1 would be demoted.

The new league composition would be
US4
Can3
AF2
EE2
SA2
WE1
SEA1
OC1

As leagues get more powerful, they are sending better teams to the World league, and their representation there increases.

Some shuffling would be required at the Pro level. In the example WE and OC are sending up one and sending down two, so the Pro league would have to demote a third team from their conference that season.








Not sure a "representation" from every league is always needed. After the initial season, the league champs from each region get promoted to the world league. Bottom 8 teams get relegated to the Pro Leagues. Is it a huge deal to get relegated to a different league? In my opinion, no. But that's me. I'm not a PL owner

As that idea stands, there would always be one team representing a region. The best they have to offer (last season's region champion)

I think East/West should be split up into

West
USA
Canada
South America
Western Europe

East
Southeast Asia
Eastern Europe
Oceania
Africa

Then, the bottom 4 teams from each conference get relegated to one of those four leagues, randomly. You've got a 25% chance of ending up back in the same spot lol
 
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Originally posted by Staz
Originally posted by The Duff Man

Two World Conferences. East and West.

Fill the West with the following teams:
Top 4 US Pro
3 Can Pro
2 SA Pro
2 Oc Pro
2 WE Pro
1 EE Pro
1 Afr Pro
1 SEA Pro

(or rank the Pro leagues however you want, I don't pay attn outside USA)

Each season, each Pro Conference Winner moves into the pro league. The team that came from that conference originally goes back down, or in the case of the Leagues with multiples, the lowest ranked one.

EXCEPTION: If the team finished in the top 6, they don't go down. That League would then gain an extra team into the World League for that season, and the lowest ranked team in the league not already slated to be demoted, would instead get the demotion.

Example:
Here are the final standings.
US1
Can1
Af1
EE1
US2
US3
Can2
SA1
OC1
OC2
SEA1
Can3
US4
WE1
WE2
SA2

The demoted teams would be:
SA2, WEE2, US4, Can3, OC2, SEA1. AF1 and EE1 earned the right to stay with top 6 performances. They stay and instead WE1 and OC1 would be demoted.

The new league composition would be
US4
Can3
AF2
EE2
SA2
WE1
SEA1
OC1

As leagues get more powerful, they are sending better teams to the World league, and their representation there increases.

Some shuffling would be required at the Pro level. In the example WE and OC are sending up one and sending down two, so the Pro league would have to demote a third team from their conference that season.








Not sure a "representation" from every league is always needed. After the initial season, the league champs from each region get promoted to the world league. Bottom 8 teams get relegated to the Pro Leagues. Is it a huge deal to get relegated to a different league? In my opinion, no. But that's me. I'm not a PL owner

As that idea stands, there would always be one team representing a region. The best they have to offer (last season's region champion)

I think East/West should be split up into

West
USA
Canada
South America
Western Europe

East
Southeast Asia
Eastern Europe
Oceania
Africa

Then, the bottom 4 teams from each conference get relegated to one of those four leagues, randomly. You've got a 25% chance of ending up back in the same spot lol


1. You don't realize how much owners care about region. USA is one of the most stacked regions, while Africa is one of the weakest ones. An APL owner would refuse to get to USAPL since they'd likely get burried by competition, and vice versa for USAPL to APL, since they'd likely beat the competition. Overall, owners are happy with their regions and don't want to move regions

2.West is too strong. Having USAPL and CPL in the same conference already overpowers it. East also has the 2 weakest (at least IMO) regions (APL and SEAPL)

3. And for the last time, OWNERS WILL STAY IN THEIR REGIONS!!! Didn't Bort say somewhere in his announcement that they'd end up in their own region nonetheless?

Anyways, I like the idea of World leagues. Teams like the Benitos finally get some competition for once
 
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