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Other than Aura, do morale-reducing SAs lower morale on a failed tackle roll?


My HB has a fair amount of confidence, more than the other HB on the team.

He carried the ball 18 times, broke 22 tackles, averaged 7.5 yards a carry and ended the game with 78 morale.

The other back had 12 more plays, carried the ball 11 times, averaged 5 yards a carry, fumbled and finished the game with near-perfect morale. Remember, this is with much lower confidence.

This is the game: http://goallineblitz.com/game/game.pl?game_id=701210


I have a feeling that, even though the defender is missing the tackle, the SAs are still lowering morale.

Doesn't matter anyway.

Originally posted by Gott
Other than Aura, do morale-reducing SAs lower morale on a failed tackle roll?


My HB has a fair amount of confidence, more than the other HB on the team.

He carried the ball 18 times, broke 24 tackles, averaged 7.5 yards a carry and ended the game with 78 morale.

The other back had 12 more plays, carried the ball 11 times, averaged 5 yards a carry, fumbled and finished the game with near-perfect morale. Remember, this is with much lower confidence.

This is the game: http://goallineblitz.com/game/game.pl?game_id=701210


I have a feeling that, even though the defender is missing the tackle, the SAs are still lowering morale.



Yes, they can.

Originally posted by Bort
Originally posted by Gott

Other than Aura, do morale-reducing SAs lower morale on a failed tackle roll?

Yes, they can.

I feel this needs to be changed then. Why should a HB break a possible Big Hit tackle and lose morale?

If I'm running, and a big LB comes up and tries to put a highlight reel hit on me, and I shrug it off and keep trucking, I'm gonna be pretty pumped up.

Originally posted by Gott
Originally posted by Bort

Originally posted by Gott


Other than Aura, do morale-reducing SAs lower morale on a failed tackle roll?

Yes, they can.

I feel this needs to be changed then. Why should a HB break a possible Big Hit tackle and lose morale?





because it hurt like shit.

Originally posted by LionsLover
because it hurt like shit.

Notice my edit. Tell me you wouldn't be pumped up after swatting a big guy away.

I could understand a loss of stamina. But a loss of morale? Nope.

Originally posted by Gott
Originally posted by LionsLover

because it hurt like shit.

Notice my edit. Tell me you wouldn't be pumped up after swatting a big guy away.



Still, your going to be hurting. I am fairly certain both come into play (morale boost for breaking tackle and morale penalty for Big Hit).

Edit: Say you got hit head on by a 350 lbs. DLineman coming full force. You somehow manage to stay on your feet. Your going to feel good from breaking the tackle, but I'm pretty sure your going to be hurting. Pain plays a part in your mental state, which in this case would be your morale.

Originally posted by LionsLover
Still, your going to be hurting. I am fairly certain both come into play (morale boost for breaking tackle and morale penalty for Big Hit).

Then the morale gain for breaking a tackle needs to be higher. There's no way a guy should break a tackle and still lose morale.

I say keep the stamina loss and remove the morale loss completely, if the tackle is missed.

Originally posted by Gott
Originally posted by LionsLover

Originally posted by Gott


Originally posted by LionsLover



because it hurt like shit.

Notice my edit. Tell me you wouldn't be pumped up after swatting a big guy away.



Still, your going to be hurting. I am fairly certain both come into play (morale boost for breaking tackle and morale penalty for Big Hit).

Then the morale gain for breaking a tackle needs to be higher. There's no way a guy should break a tackle and still lose morale.

I say keep the stamina loss and remove the morale loss completely, if the tackle is missed.


I disagree. there are already way more opportunities for offensive players to gain morale. the defense should be able to put them in their place.

Originally posted by Gott
Then the morale gain for breaking a tackle needs to be higher. There's no way a guy should break a tackle and still lose morale.

I say keep the stamina loss and remove the morale loss completely, if the tackle is missed.


None of us are in a position to suggest modification to the morale system until we know how it works.

IMO Bort should tell us how it works.

You'd think if anyone lost morale in that scenario it would be the guy who brought the haymaker and it still wasn't enough........

"Just what they @$%^ do I gotta do to tackle this guy?!!!!!!"

Originally posted by fallingmercury
Originally posted by Gott

Then the morale gain for breaking a tackle needs to be higher. There's no way a guy should break a tackle and still lose morale.

I say keep the stamina loss and remove the morale loss completely, if the tackle is missed.


None of us are in a position to suggest modification to the morale system until we know how it works.

IMO Bort should tell us how it works.

IMO it doesn't work very well. I had to retire my LB that invested in morale draining SAs (mainly his 18 aura) when I found out that even when he had 10+ tackles solely on one player (a HB who didn't even gain 30 yards or any TDs), that player still ended with 90+morale.

Originally posted by greengoose
You'd think if anyone lost morale in that scenario it would be the guy who brought the haymaker and it still wasn't enough........

"Just what they @$%^ do I gotta do to tackle this guy?!!!!!!"

they do get a morale penalty for missing the tackle.

Originally posted by fallingmercury
Originally posted by Gott

Then the morale gain for breaking a tackle needs to be higher. There's no way a guy should break a tackle and still lose morale.

I say keep the stamina loss and remove the morale loss completely, if the tackle is missed.


None of us are in a position to suggest modification to the morale system until we know how it works.

IMO Bort should tell us how it works.

All I know, from what he's told us, is that morale affects your player's performance.

So good morale is good. Bad morale is bad. No shit, right?


Well, he just confirmed that just because a guy attempts to make a big hit and fails, the back still loses morale.

So I am in a position to suggest that, in that scenario, there's no way the back should have his performance affected in a negative way.



Originally posted by greengoose
You'd think if anyone lost morale in that scenario it would be the guy who brought the haymaker and it still wasn't enough........

"Just what they @$%^ do I gotta do to tackle this guy?!!!!!!"

Exactly.

so when your physically in pain your performance doesn't suffer? I beg to differ my friend.