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Originally posted by bort

By Bort

While working with updating and improving the pulling ability of guards on pitch plays, we discovered most guards were going to need some help pulling them off more effectively. So, we are adding the "Pulling Lineman" veteran ability, which is now available to select on the VA screen.

Pulling Lineman gives a speed and acceleration boost when doing the pull motion on rushing plays. You can think of it as similar to the First Step SA, but for pulling linemen only. In fact, here's a little tip: you can improve your pulling ability quite a bit by picking up some First Step advanced equipment to go along with using this new VA.

Right now, Guards are the only ones who are going to be able to take advantage, since the only plays with pulling linemen include guards. So, if you are a C or OT, you probably want to skip this one for now unless you are playing out of position. However, we may add plays with other pulling players in the future.

To allow the OL players out there to use the skill, I've given all C, G, and OT's an additional set of reset points, and I'm going to keep resets open until the end of day 2, instead of the end of day 0.


Nice to have some additional resets for the o-line. Not sure what I think of the new VA yet...but sounds interesting for guards...

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Adding quotes to OP regarding new SA option:

Originally posted by r87
Originally posted by Catch22

Coming soon... the ability to pick First Step as a bonus SA for your G.


Originally posted by Catch22

Originally posted by joemalaka


What will it replace?


Nothing - it's a bonus SA - an 11th one if you will. You can pick from any available SA (only on player creation though so you need to think about it before you pick it)


Originally posted by Bort

Originally posted by r87


can you theoretically give a player both change direction and quick cut (assuming they already have one in the natural tree)?


Nope.


Originally posted by Catch22

I'll be posting more info on player archetypes within the next week probably, just giving the testers time to review it one last time.


Originally posted by Catch22

Originally posted by AngryDragon


Will it cost more like the 5th SA?


No will be like one of the first four slots (meaning +1 SP for 1 point to start)


Originally posted by Catch22

Originally posted by TyrannyVaunt


Can we expect to see 'new' SA's introduced as well?


No but we're discussing VA's that will be complements to SA's per archetype




Edited by r87 on Feb 6, 2010 00:59:41
 
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I like the sound of it.
 
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Bort... Does Outside Blocker VA activate for a Pulling Guard? Would Outside Blocker VA stack with this Pulling Lineman VA?
 
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Now if only the OT and LG would ignore the DT on the weak pitch from the weak I.
http://goallineblitz.com/game/replay.pl?game_id=1004532&pbp_id=2025574
 
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Originally posted by TyrannyVaunt
Bort... Does Outside Blocker VA activate for a Pulling Guard? Would Outside Blocker VA stack with this Pulling Lineman VA?


i was wondering about Outside Blocker vs Pulling Guard as well. The bonuses to Outside blocker are higher than Pulling guard.. and I would think they would activate on many of the same plays




 
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yes i will concur this is a very valid update
 
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Originally posted by TyrannyVaunt
Bort... Does Outside Blocker VA activate for a Pulling Guard? Would Outside Blocker VA stack with this Pulling Lineman VA?


It is basically the extension of Pulling Lineman. Essentially, where Pulling Lineman ends, Outside Blocker takes over. Of course, it's only on run plays, but helpful nonetheless.

I am serious about the First Step thing, too, BTW. PP tested giving his guard 10 first step, and it's night and day on how well he pulled and got to the edge. There should be some discussion of it in the test blog if you go look. That's why we added this VA. G's needed a way to get moving out of the gap faster and headed to the outside, as long as it's a choice as to whether he's built to do that, and you are rewarded for doing so.
 
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its a shame there are not enough good VA's for a blocking TE but glad to see the Guards get something sweet and its even better with a FS sa
 
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Coming soon... the ability to pick First Step as a bonus SA for your G.
 
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Originally posted by Bort
It is basically the extension of Pulling Lineman. Essentially, where Pulling Lineman ends, Outside Blocker takes over. Of course, it's only on run plays, but helpful nonetheless.

I am serious about the First Step thing, too, BTW. PP tested giving his guard 10 first step, and it's night and day on how well he pulled and got to the edge. There should be some discussion of it in the test blog if you go look. That's why we added this VA. G's needed a way to get moving out of the gap faster and headed to the outside, as long as it's a choice as to whether he's built to do that, and you are rewarded for doing so.


maybe you should replace absorb pain with first step?
 
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Originally posted by Bort
Originally posted by TyrannyVaunt

Bort... Does Outside Blocker VA activate for a Pulling Guard? Would Outside Blocker VA stack with this Pulling Lineman VA?


It is basically the extension of Pulling Lineman. Essentially, where Pulling Lineman ends, Outside Blocker takes over. Of course, it's only on run plays, but helpful nonetheless.

I am serious about the First Step thing, too, BTW. PP tested giving his guard 10 first step, and it's night and day on how well he pulled and got to the edge. There should be some discussion of it in the test blog if you go look. That's why we added this VA. G's needed a way to get moving out of the gap faster and headed to the outside, as long as it's a choice as to whether he's built to do that, and you are rewarded for doing so.


Have you considered revamping SA tree's, and giving FS a spot for Guards? Shopping for AEQ can cause headaches.
 
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Originally posted by Catch22
Coming soon... the ability to pick First Step as a bonus SA for your G.


 
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Originally posted by PLAYMAKERS
maybe you should replace absorb pain with first step?


that would be a great move what do you say Bort
 
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Originally posted by Catch22
Coming soon... the ability to pick First Step as a bonus SA for your G.


What will it replace?
 
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Originally posted by Catch22
Coming soon... the ability to pick First Step as a bonus SA for your G.


Among other things
 
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