Warrior General Games

Originally posted by We_Rule
And then there is the "Iron Man League Crew" still pushing for those leagues as well.......

Iron Man Leagues = Fail

The only thing I can think of that makes that somewhat interesting is that it makes it fairly obtainable for a single agent to build his own team.

Reminds me of this scenario:

Player A never made it past 7th grade Football when there used to be 19 players on the team. He was obviously a stud in Middle School and was the starting MLB and RB and scored 4 of the teams 9 touchdowns for the season.

He fell out of football in 8th grade after a new kid transferred in and took his starting spot at RB and he never tried to play again.

People forgot Player A was ever on the football team in Junior High School, but Player A never forgot.

Flash forward 12 years:

Player A finds GLB a few seasons after joining the real world workforce. Player A eavesdrops on a few of the coolguys at the Watercooler sharing AI secrets for some game called Goallineblitz. He checks it out, and tries to get in with the Watercooler gang, but for some reason they just won't invite him out to play Golf or anything.

They won't even let him basque in the glory of their LOLtrophy season. He is unable to get into any social circle on the game, and wants a chance to "play by himself".

He thinks getting back to his roots where he can be the stud again will win him some points with the cool kids and they will hail him the GLB Savior....

Yep... That sums up my thoughts on Iron Man Leagues

Originally posted by ptompkins
if you have 8 or more 255-0 wins you are automatically going to be in the playoffs, period. That means the game you paid for, well, for the first 30 days or so (plus the off season) you actually didn't play. You logged in, saw you were going to win 255-0, and didn't bother making a single change in almost every case (well, unless you wanted to put your punter at QB and still get a 255-0 score).

So since we really didn't get a real game, how about extending those owners team rights by one season (instead of giving a refund). After all, it's not the owners fault they were placed in leagues that are not competitive.

I understand your frustration, but you continue to play this game after all the gripes and complaints. If it pisses you off that bad, walk away. The fact of the matter is taht this is still the best MMORPG Football game on the market, and if it wasn't you would no longer be here. I know you want something for free, but you are not gonna get it, so stop bitching about thigs you cannot change and try to actually find ways to make the current system better other than asking for free extensions. I am so sick of all the "give me free flex" posts on teh suggestion boards, all the threats of people who have been "about to quit" for 10 seasons now

Originally posted by Blutoski
I understand that they say that they are trying to fix this, but if that is the case why is the game getting more unrealistic and lopsided every year. Sacks have never been quite right. In the beginning there weren't enough and then we got to the point where a league might have 5 -7 guys over 20. This year a guy in my league had 258. Another player forced 161 fumbles. This isn't American football.

Go back and check their blowout adjusted stats, and things will be much different. They created the blowout stats to show more realistic stats. This is a much easier and less risky change as opposed to chanign the sim and screwing up another aspect of the game up. For many seasons they made changes to the sim and all people did was complain that their position was getting nerfed. Once again, I will say that if you don't like the game, pack up and move on, otherwise accept the fact that the world is not perfect and GLB will never be either. At the end of the day, all I want to know from all the complainers is what keeps you around playing each and every season? you complain every day, but still log on to play the game.

Originally posted by ptompkins
That's great, but how does that help me this season when i already know I'm going to make the playoffs. We are 14 and 1 right now with 11 games being 255-0. We are about to play another 14-1 team next who has had 10 games being 255-0.

How de-motivational to login every day to see the same score but against a different team. Even if this game is BETA I've never seen it this bad.

It doesnt make up for the poor season, I know. Its a move in the right direction though.

Originally posted by driftinggrifter
Originally posted by ptompkins

You want to know how bad it is?
I have a kick returner with 281 punt returns for touch downs. I mean lets be real. that is no where close to realistic. $100 says next season GLB moves me into a league where I won't win a single game because I'm up here suggesting that they give team ownership extensions.

Please, pertain to the thread and leave conspiracy theories out of it. If you get moved it will be to a more competitive league. You can't have it both ways, not wanting blowouts but thinking it's a conspiracy if you get put in a more competitive league.

Lol, exactly. He bitches if he blows everyone out, but if he is put in a league where he doesn't automatically make the playoffs, all of the sudden the game screwed him over. Some people will always see the glass as half empty, never happy with their lot in life.

Originally posted by Chysil
to me, it's not about if an owner will quit or not. It's about pride of product. When someone purchases a team, they have certain, reasonable (and sometimes unreasonable) expectations of service.

I think it's reasonable to say you should expect some sort of league parity unless you are choosing to ruin it on your own accord (having severely under-leveled or CPU players etc).

So if you win over half of your games by 255-0, it usually is an indication that you were not properly placed in the correct league. Either you were placed in a league littered with CPU, or you were placed in a league that you could dominate in etc.

In my opinion, it should be accepted that if you place someone in that bad a league, you should admit you made a mistake and correct the problem. I'm personally fine with this being a "beta" game, and the fact that Bort is one man and coding is not always perfect (especially with the shear number of teams). So I accept that mistakes will be made and it's not the end of the world. But telling me "tough luck" or "congratulations on making the playoffs!" isn't my idea of correcting the problem. Correcting the problem would be "sorry that season was lost, have a season on me to make up for it"

I understand that GLB offers a pretty unique product, so customer service isn't the highest on the list. But it also shouldn't be completely lacking. I don't think that it is (I've always had good response from support etc). But it could stand to be a bit better


You have to look at both sides of the coin, amny of the leagues that are not competitive are not that way because of CPU teams, but rather slow build teams that are purposely not being competitive. I know that the hardcore owners want to have high levels of competition for their money, but other owners want to slow build a team for their money. As a buisiness owner such as bort when your customer base wants so many different things, who do you listen to? The owner who paid for his team and wants competition, or the owner who paid the same for his team to slow build and get blown out? Either way you have people pissed at you, and you cannot simply hand out free flex every time someone gets pissed, expecially when you are selling a test game in beta.

Originally posted by WinkyD
Lol, exactly. He bitches if he blows everyone out, but if he is put in a league where he doesn't automatically make the playoffs, all of the sudden the game screwed him over. Some people will always see the glass as half empty, never happy with their lot in life.

not true. If I went 4 and12 and out of those losses most of them were by 21 points or less and the total game score (adding both teams scores) was under 80 points i wouldn't feel screwed.

Now if my team lost by 100 points every game I would feel like I was screwed.

So, if you were in a game that was lost/won by only 3 pts but the total points scored was 90, you would feel screwed? Doesn't make sense to me unless you mean you feel screwed by your DC.

And if you lost a couple of games close to 100pts even if the winning team was the same lvl/lolbar as you?
You can only blame the sim for so much before that blame needs to start being given to GM's.

Originally posted by driftinggrifter
So, if you were in a game that was lost/won by only 3 pts but the total points scored was 90, you would feel screwed? Doesn't make sense to me unless you mean you feel screwed by your DC.

And if you lost a couple of games close to 100pts even if the winning team was the same lvl/lolbar as you?
You can only blame the sim for so much before that blame needs to start being given to GM's.

I wouldn't feel screwed at all, if it was a close game, but a game of 70-20 and I lose, yeah, I'd feel like enough effort was not placed into team placement to deal with the matter. That is unless I'm dumb enough to run a strong side QB sneak on a 5 WR set every down of every game so the other team just eliminates that hole. I believe that my team does good game planning, if I lose due to poor game planning that's my fault, if I lose because the 'overall' meter shows them having a 30 point advantage, then what's the point of even playing.

To answer questions before, yes I do enjoy playing GLB, I just wish that I could have a more balanced league and I also wish that I would see most of the same teams season after season outside of scrimmages.

you know, it's almost like "why waste my time, just fast forward to the playoffs with the 8 teams that won in the league and have competition their". Ya know what I mean?

and it gets better.

How about a 255-0 game in the playoffs.

http://goallineblitz.com/game/game.pl?game_id=1187151



and it wasn't just my team
http://goallineblitz.com/game/league.pl?league_id=88

Oh my bad, one of them was 252 to 6. and only 4 255-0 games.

Wyoming Jackalopes vs. Carson City Cadillacs 6-252 Lion Conference
Kalahari Night Riders vs. Cape Town Colossal Squid 44-14 Lion Conference
Megan's Foxes CPU vs. Manifest Destiny CPU 42-0 Lion Conference
Cambridge Chieftains vs. Morocco Snake Charmers 255-0 Lion Conference
Rapid City Sioux vs. Denver Assassins 255-0 Lion Conference
Ball Ground Gaters vs. champagne drinkers 30-27 Lion Conference
Los Angeles 'Hit Em Up' CPU vs. Mogadishu Juggernaut 0-255 Lion Conference
Botswana Bone Breakers vs. Volgograd Berserks CPU 140-14 Lion Conference
LHC Naked Turtles vs. Phoenix City Warriors 255-0 Lion Conference
Stockholm Polarbears vs. Smith's Grove Sanitarium CPU 255-0 Lion Conference
Mozambique Mercenaries CPU vs. Pangani Peckerwoods CPU 13-26 Lion Conference
New Jersey Surge vs. Gambia Diamond Cutters CPU 121-0 Lion Conference
Winnipeg Wolfpack vs. Nile Valley Vipers 61-19 Elephant Conference
Alexandria Barbarians vs. P-Town Ballaz 51-14 Elephant Conference
Sahara ShadowChasers vs. Cape Town Great Whites 181-10 Elephant Conference
Warri Delta Warriors vs. Mario Maniacs 108-14 Elephant Conference

Originally posted by ptompkins
and it gets better.

How about a 255-0 game in the playoffs.

http://goallineblitz.com/game/game.pl?game_id=1187151



and it wasn't just my team
http://goallineblitz.com/game/league.pl?league_id=88

Oh my bad, one of them was 252 to 6. and only 4 255-0 games.

Wyoming Jackalopes vs. Carson City Cadillacs 6-252 Lion Conference
Kalahari Night Riders vs. Cape Town Colossal Squid 44-14 Lion Conference
Megan's Foxes CPU vs. Manifest Destiny CPU 42-0 Lion Conference
Cambridge Chieftains vs. Morocco Snake Charmers 255-0 Lion Conference
Rapid City Sioux vs. Denver Assassins 255-0 Lion Conference
Ball Ground Gaters vs. champagne drinkers 30-27 Lion Conference
Los Angeles 'Hit Em Up' CPU vs. Mogadishu Juggernaut 0-255 Lion Conference
Botswana Bone Breakers vs. Volgograd Berserks CPU 140-14 Lion Conference
LHC Naked Turtles vs. Phoenix City Warriors 255-0 Lion Conference
Stockholm Polarbears vs. Smith's Grove Sanitarium CPU 255-0 Lion Conference
Mozambique Mercenaries CPU vs. Pangani Peckerwoods CPU 13-26 Lion Conference
New Jersey Surge vs. Gambia Diamond Cutters CPU 121-0 Lion Conference
Winnipeg Wolfpack vs. Nile Valley Vipers 61-19 Elephant Conference
Alexandria Barbarians vs. P-Town Ballaz 51-14 Elephant Conference
Sahara ShadowChasers vs. Cape Town Great Whites 181-10 Elephant Conference
Warri Delta Warriors vs. Mario Maniacs 108-14 Elephant Conference


.. with all this complaint you better win the championship game...

Originally posted by talmon
.. with all this complaint you better win the championship game...

LOL
actually, I think we'll get stopped in the division final 4.

and honestly, I think we owners should be getting a free ownership season as an apology, but I know that's not going to happen because it is clear that GLB management doesn't care about making right their mess up.

Originally posted by ptompkins
LOL
actually, I think we'll get stopped in the division final 4.

and honestly, I think we owners should be getting a free ownership season as an apology, but I know that's not going to happen because it is clear that GLB management doesn't care about making right their mess up.

Even after them trying to redo the structure and to shuffle teams around? And plans of using Effective lvls to sort leagues.
they try, they just haven't found that sweet spot yet.

Originally posted by ptompkins
Originally posted by talmon

.. with all this complaint you better win the championship game...

LOL
actually, I think we'll get stopped in the division final 4.

and honestly, I think we owners should be getting a free ownership season as an apology, but I know that's not going to happen because it is clear that GLB management doesn't care about making right their mess up.

I am not saying that you are wrong but you are blaming everything on GLB management. Some things are out of their control. I know in one league I am in at the start of the season there wasn't a CPU team at all. now at the start of the playoffs there are 9 I think. management couldn't foresee that happening. alot of our problems come from GLB users instead of management. while managenment could do some things to try to help make things right we can't lay all the blame on them for the blowout games.