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Originally posted by Shrazkil
That was the correct response. Or would you like to compare my 4 major Cov LB to your CB?
http://goallineblitz.com/game/player.pl?player_id=2594565

How does a 21 point EL difference strike you?

Your lack of MVP's tells me you build very well rounded dots and I am sure they can hold their own. However...your not building in such a way that your player stands out above the crowd. I am not debating you. I am not saying your wrong. I simply agreed with jdbolick and that's my opinion.

Have a nice day.

Originally posted by whodey08
Your lack of MVP's tells me you build very well rounded dots and I am sure they can hold their own. However...your not building in such a way that your player stands out above the crowd. I am not debating you. I am not saying your wrong. I simply agreed with jdbolick and that's my opinion.

Have a nice day.

Lack of MVP's should tell you, i built mostly O-Line cause that used to be all i could afford, and when i OC'd i didn't stat whore my own players.

If your winning MVP's early in your career chances are your being stat whored or have a more well rounded build to start. ST MVP's are easy but chances are Defensive and Offensive dots are well rounded. Now if your winning MVP's in Pro and WL then you've built a great dot.

Originally posted by ANumber1Roy
If your winning MVP's early in your career chances are your being stat whored or have a more well rounded build to start. ST MVP's are easy but chances are Defensive and Offensive dots are well rounded. Now if your winning MVP's in Pro and WL then you've built a great dot.

+1

Generally, this ...

Originally posted by Rage Kinard
I'm doing 2 different players. 1 I took the first attribute up higher while single training. The other I started quad training sooner, and left the first attribute as part of the quad train.

After tomorrow, the one that I took 1 attribute up higher while single training will have a 2 sp value advantage at level 41.

If you aren't concerned about your primary going over 102, you can do it either way and it won't make much difference as long as you are efficient, and it kind of depends on what your goal is for the build. The major difference is that one way you get done with the first attribute in the first full season or early in the second season. The other way, you are training the first attribute as part of quad training up to the 5th season or possibly longer.

The training cut off at 100 will help to normalise things.

Originally posted by Shrazkil
Here we go again, You've been proven wrong already. So facepalm and get it over with.
You're a nobody with no success at this game and multiple people at the top levels of the game have said that you're wrong. Again, stop giving people bad advice. Nobody cares if you screw up your own players, but telling people to multi-train early makes their players worse. That's not acceptable.

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And for those who didn't see the earlier thread, the reason you do not want to multi-train early is because it keeps your first attribute from getting as high as it otherwise could, and it causes your second attribute to get into the 30s more quickly, which forces you to either stop training it at that point or go ahead and cap it instead of finishing off the first one, which again puts the first attribute farther behind where it could be. You should not be multi-training before d7 or so. Everything before that should be focused on getting your first attribute up as quickly as possible, even if you're only taking it to 77.

Originally posted by jdbolick

You're a nobody with no success at this game and multiple people at the top levels of the game have said that you're wrong. Again, stop giving people bad advice. Nobody cares if you screw up your own players, but telling people to multi-train early makes their players worse. That's not acceptable.

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And for those who didn't see the earlier thread, the reason you do not want to multi-train early is because it keeps your first attribute from getting as high as it otherwise could, and it causes your second attribute to get into the 30s more quickly, which forces you to either stop training it at that point or go ahead and cap it instead of finishing off the first one, which again puts the first attribute farther behind where it could be. You should not be multi-training before d7 or so. Everything before that should be focused on getting your first attribute up as quickly as possible, even if you're only taking it to 77.

This advice coming from a dinosaur, who has no new dots in this system, and just peddles bad advice, because he just can't wrap his head around doing it right. Its ok, i like dinosaurs too, great to look at and marvel, but they ended up extinct.

If your method is "right" and so good, post some dots built using them in the 40-80 range. You just clearly don't understand the new systems or you wouldn 't be making bad assumptions about when a stat hits 30, or that you need to break off early on your primary.

Originally posted by Shrazkil
This advice coming from a dinosaur, who has no new dots in this system, and just peddles bad advice, because he just can't wrap his head around doing it right. Its ok, i like dinosaurs too, great to look at and marvel, but they ended up extinct.

If your method is "right" and so good, post some dots built using them in the 40-80 range. You just clearly don't understand the new systems or you wouldn 't be making bad assumptions about when a stat hits 30, or that you need to break off early on your primary.
Again, multiple people including Mat McBriar, Hagalaz, and Rage Kinard explained why you are wrong. You have this bizarre delusion where you think you're an expert builder even though you've never had one relevant dot ever, but you need to get over it. Until you have achieved anything in this game, stop arguing with people who actually have.

Originally posted by jdbolick

Again, multiple people including Mat McBriar, Hagalaz, and Rage Kinard explained why you are wrong. You have this bizarre delusion where you think you're an expert builder even though you've never had one relevant dot ever, but you need to get over it. Until you have achieved anything in this game, stop arguing with people who actually have.

Hmm my dots have higher EL than all 3 you listed, guess im still doing it wrong? Like i said before, my oldest dots now are pretty good, not excellent, they were all built with pen paper and calculator. At that time, i didnt even know about the 4th alg decline, so my math for end numbers were off, and all were capped highest at 78. Ever since i found out about the VPB my dots and methods have become immensely better. I respect Rage immensely, i learned a ton from his posts, but equal level dots or end build VPB (at least that ive seen posted recently) i have higher EL.

Proof is in the pudding, you give me a player doing your method,and ill compare mine.

Originally posted by Shrazkil
Hmm my dots have higher EL than all 3 you listed, guess im still doing it wrong? Like i said before, my oldest dots now are pretty good, not excellent, they were all built with pen paper and calculator. At that time, i didnt even know about the 4th alg decline, so my math for end numbers were off, and all were capped highest at 78. Ever since i found out about the VPB my dots and methods have become immensely better. I respect Rage immensely, i learned a ton from his posts, but equal level dots or end build VPB (at least that ive seen posted recently) i have higher EL.

Proof is in the pudding, you give me a player doing your method,and ill compare mine.

Out of curiosity.....are you training vision or strength as part of your multi training on your lv16 HB? My hunch is vision.

Originally posted by whodey08
Out of curiosity.....are you training vision or strength as part of your multi training? My hunch is vision.

Strength on HB.

Again, until you have achieved anything in this game, stop arguing with people who actually have. You're a nobody who doesn't know what he's talking about and is screwing up the builds of others by giving bad advice. Stop posting until you've actually produced a great final build.

Look at your players and retired players: http://goallineblitz.com/game/home.pl?user_id=217392 You have achieved nothing. Stop acting as if you know what you're talking about when you've never proven that you do.

Originally posted by jdbolick
Again, until you have achieved anything in this game, stop arguing with people who actually have. You're a nobody who doesn't know what he's talking about and is screwing up the builds of others by giving bad advice. Stop posting until you've actually produced a great final build.

Same old song and dance, back to the stone age with you dinosaur, you are all talk (and glory day talk at that), and no proof, the previous dots you are speeking about weren't made under this system . That is where my argument is pointed, not long ago, under a system i didn't like before arch-types came along, and i only did super slow build dots to save on flex costs.

Despite not being the best they could be, my 6 oldest are now on 2 WL teams, 2 on one former WL team (buda pests), and 2 on the team with the greatest win streak in GLB history. Think im gonna be alright for my first dots to reach 79.

You've also been told mathematically why you're wrong. You're just some delusional clown who decided to pretend that he's a build expert despite never having a single build worth a damn, which would be fine if you kept that delusion to yourself, but has become a problem because you're giving bad advice to others.