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This is my HH CB experiment. The idea was to create a tackler to cripple weak WR upon getting the ball and creating FFum due to low carrying attributes among most WR in the game.

After a few seasons and some early success - the idea seems to be less viable as the seasons go on (mind you - the build is not optimal all the same).

So I figure I would pass on some observations.

1. If you build a HH CB - be sure to get a DC who knows what to do with it. I've had a few that liked the fact that the dot caused a few fumbles early in his career - but was never really comfortable using him in a defense package.

2. Probably not new to most CB builders - but speed is the most important attribute. Mid career I found that the dot allowed too many reception by allowing WR to create separation via speed. Str/tkl should be ok at about 68-70.

3. If you want to continue down the FFum idea - concentrate on gong ST as they are more likely to occur there. Otherwise the KL will be your stat of choice as a HH CBer.


In the meantime, if any of you have experience building such a CB and have more advice, or recommendations on what I can do - be happy to hear it.


Rib Tickler (Lv. 60 CB)

Ht/Wt: 6'3", 206lbs

Attributes
Physical Attributes
Strength: 86.31 (+6)
Speed: 121.91 (+33)
Agility: 72.17
Jumping: 56.17
Stamina: 52.97
Vision: 73.11
Confidence: 35.17

Football Skills
Blocking: 8
Catching: 8
Tackling: 81.31
Throwing: 8
Carrying: 8
Kicking: 8
Punting: 8

Special Abilities
Shutdown Corner Abilities
Swat Ball: 0
Sticky Hands: 0
Superior Vision: 0
Smooth Operator: 0
Shutdown Coverage: 0

Speedster Abilities
First Step: 0
Change Direction: 0
Return Specialist: 0
Blitz: 0
Closing Speed: 0

Additional Abilities
Big Hit: 0
Veteran Abilities
Long Reach: 15
Power Tackler: 15
Sure Tackler: 13

Current Bonuses/Penalties
Make tackle chance: +9%
Avoid fake chance: +8%

http://goallineblitz.com/game/player.pl?player_id=2298018

They just need to be playing a specific CB position on the Depth Chart and it's pretty easy for the DC to get him going in certain ways.
Swap Big Hit for Monster Hit, it's better.
Need FF% AEQ
Needs more of everything, I'd suggest capping agility twice and vision once and then getting confidence to at least 40, more stamina, maybe two or 3 more points, get vision up 1-2 more points, Need to get First Step up, along with other coverage SA's.

Do it like this (but he should be faster in the new building system):


Yes Man XII: Ruination (Lv. 79 CB)
Ht/Wt: 6'3", 210lbs

Attributes
Physical Attributes
Strength: 77.2
Speed: 142.2 (+55)
Agility: 89.31 (+3)
Jumping: 63.31
Stamina: 64.31
Vision: 89.2
Confidence: 51.31

Football Skills
Blocking: 8
Catching: 8
Tackling: 82.2
Throwing: 8
Carrying: 8
Kicking: 8
Punting: 8

Special Abilities
Shutdown Corner Abilities
Swat Ball: 2
Sticky Hands: 3
Superior Vision: 10
Smooth Operator: 1
Shutdown Coverage: 1

Speedster Abilities
First Step: 6
Change Direction: 7
Return Specialist: 0
Blitz: 0
Closing Speed: 0

Additional Abilities
Jackhammer: 10
Monster Hit: 11
Veteran Abilities
Football Genius: 10
Overtime Killer: 15
Power Tackler: 15
Second Wind: 5
Special Teamer: 15
Sure Tackler: 15

Current Bonuses/Penalties
Vision: +4.46
Make tackle chance: +12%
Force fumble chance: +21.5%

Had AEQ in FF% but it was useless. Decided to change back to Avoid Fake. Mind you...I didnt have a 21.5% mod like that guy

The FF% is there for more KL, not so much for forcing fumbles

Shut Down U (Lv. 60 CB)

Ht/Wt: 5'8", 170lbs


Attributes
Physical Attributes
Strength: 84.11
Speed: 138.11 (+40)
Agility: 89.11
Jumping: 18.17
Stamina: 24.17
Vision: 71.17
Confidence: 20.17

Football Skills
Blocking: 8
Catching: 8
Tackling: 70.11
Throwing: 8
Carrying: 8
Kicking: 8
Punting: 8

Special Abilities
Shutdown Corner Abilities
Swat Ball: 1
Sticky Hands: 1
Superior Vision: 1
Smooth Operator: 1
Shutdown Coverage: 11

Speedster Abilities
First Step: 0
Change Direction: 0
Return Specialist: 0
Blitz: 0
Closing Speed: 0

Additional Abilities
Head Hunter: 0
Veteran Abilities
Long Reach: 15
Second Wind: 5
Sure Tackler: 9
Third Down Stopper: 15

Here's my HH CB. How high should I take jumping & confidence? And any other advice is more than welcome.

Hammerhead Foster (Lv. 61 CB)
Ht/Wt: 6'3", 205lbs

Attributes
Physical Attributes
Strength: 74.32
Speed: 139.32 (+41)
Agility: 81.28
Jumping: 31.28
Stamina: 43.28
Vision: 80.32
Confidence: 24.28
Tackling: 73.32

Special Abilities
Shutdown Corner Abilities
Swat Ball: 2
Sticky Hands: 2
Superior Vision: 3
Smooth Operator: 1
Shutdown Coverage: 1

Speedster Abilities
First Step: 2
Change Direction: 2
Return Specialist: 0
Blitz: 0
Closing Speed: 2

Additional Abilities
Diving Tackle: 1
Veteran Abilities
David vs Goliath: 10
Long Reach: 15
Second Wind: 2
Third Down Stopper: 15

Current Bonuses/Penalties
Make tackle chance: +18.5%

HHCB are useless if u actually invest in that stock

I disagree. In a sim that favours the run - HH CB are an ideal metagame choice. That being said, they have to be employed as a run defense component.

The ideal situation is to punch a blocking WR in the face and tackle the HB/FB/QB for a loss or very little gain. The other strong point is to force turnovers on ST.

Originally posted by Packers27
HHCB are useless if u actually invest in that stock

Right now they are a very viable build to use if your DC knows what he's doing.

As my dot's name implies, he was intended to be a blitzer, but I don't think he has ever blitzed once in his career. He is, however, a tackling machine and a PD machine as well.


Sacky McBlitzy (Lv. 79 CB)
Ht/Wt: 5'8", 170lbs

Attributes
Physical Attributes
Strength: 70.1
Speed: 152.1 (+55)
Agility: 92.1
Jumping: 73.26
Stamina: 63.26
Vision: 78.26
Confidence: 51.26

Football Skills
Blocking: 8
Catching: 8
Tackling: 75.1
Throwing: 8
Carrying: 8
Kicking: 8
Punting: 8

Special Abilities
Shutdown Corner Abilities
Swat Ball: 0
Sticky Hands: 0
Superior Vision: 0
Smooth Operator: 0
Shutdown Coverage: 0

Speedster Abilities
First Step: 9
Change Direction: 14
Return Specialist: 5
Blitz: 15
Closing Speed: 7

Additional Abilities
Head of Steam: 8
Veteran Abilities
Brick Wall: 15
Long Reach: 15
Power Tackler: 13
Sure Tackler: 15
Third Down Stopper: 15

Current Bonuses/Penalties
Force fumble chance: +15%

all of them are useless

Originally posted by Packers27
all of them are useless

You definitely don't know what you're talking about.

Pretty sure Packers is just talking out of his ass with no idea of what a HH CB is capable of or what the build even looks like.

Jack CBs (like Kent Paul) is useless too. I'm the owner,DC,OC,CFO,ST, and the only recruiter for my team and just so happens, my squad does nothing but win championships. I don't recruit Jacks,Zones, STs and especially HHs

But if I scout a team that has them, then the will be singled out and exploited. So ya, I think a know lil something about builds, especially DBs