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Originally posted by MrMoose
http://goallineblitz.com/game/full_player_stats.pl?player_id=45074&playoffs=0

1 drop, 29 catches
In the past 3 seasons, 6 drops, 90 catches

http://goallineblitz.com/game/full_player_stats.pl?player_id=41392&playoffs=0

0 drops, 38 catches
In the past 3 seasons, 2 drops, 108 catches.

For both, all 3 seasons have been in the pro league. Team went 8-8, 12-4 and 10-6 over the three seasons.

Neither are my player, so I won't share the builds. But it is possible to avoid the crazy amounts of knocked loose passes.

Well Moose, not everyone has such a large library of cat videos to distract the opposition.

fyb! 30-40 carrying is not going to help. i saw someone say 60 carrying wr's are not doing good. i don't believe it. show builds. i, for one, am fixing my build.

stop bitching. and op is the biggest bitch of them all.

Originally posted by jrry32
Originally posted by MrMoose

http://goallineblitz.com/game/full_player_stats.pl?player_id=45074&playoffs=0

1 drop, 29 catches
In the past 3 seasons, 6 drops, 90 catches

http://goallineblitz.com/game/full_player_stats.pl?player_id=41392&playoffs=0

0 drops, 38 catches
In the past 3 seasons, 2 drops, 108 catches.

For both, all 3 seasons have been in the pro league. Team went 8-8, 12-4 and 10-6 over the three seasons.

Neither are my player, so I won't share the builds. But it is possible to avoid the crazy amounts of knocked loose passes.

Well Moose, not everyone has such a large library of cat videos to distract the opposition.

I haven't looked at all of the guys replays, and nor do I know how your offense plays out...with that said...

You can prevent balls from getting knocked out..as long as you are willing to sacrifice your ability to get open

29 catches in 1 year isn't exactly stellar

Originally posted by CTX
I haven't looked at all of the guys replays, and nor do I know how your offense plays out...with that said...

You can prevent balls from getting knocked out..as long as you are willing to sacrifice your ability to get open

29 catches in 1 year isn't exactly stellar

Bear in mind that the team personnel means at LEAST 3 great WRs and 2 HBs are competing for these catch stats

Originally posted by CTX
I haven't looked at all of the guys replays, and nor do I know how your offense plays out...with that said...

You can prevent balls from getting knocked out..as long as you are willing to sacrifice your ability to get open

29 catches in 1 year isn't exactly stellar

But isn't that how the game is supposed to work. If you are a LB, who wants to force a lot of fumbles, you are going to have less speed. A zone corner with 70+ vision has to trade either speed or tackling. A run blocking OT with 120 strength isn't going to handle an agility based DE very well.

If a WR wants 120 speed, those points have to come out of somewhere. Finding the sweet spot depends on a lot of factors, but there are WR's, who have done it.

Originally posted by steellithium
But isn't that how the game is supposed to work. If you are a LB, who wants to force a lot of fumbles, you are going to have less speed. A zone corner with 70+ vision has to trade either speed or tackling. A run blocking OT with 120 strength isn't going to handle an agility based DE very well.

If a WR wants 120 speed, those points have to come out of somewhere. Finding the sweet spot depends on a lot of factors, but there are WR's, who have done it.

but i want it all!!!

i want to pwn!!!

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Originally posted by steellithium
But isn't that how the game is supposed to work. If you are a LB, who wants to force a lot of fumbles, you are going to have less speed. A zone corner with 70+ vision has to trade either speed or tackling. A run blocking OT with 120 strength isn't going to handle an agility based DE very well.

If a WR wants 120 speed, those points have to come out of somewhere. Finding the sweet spot depends on a lot of factors, but there are WR's, who have done it.

people think their guys have to always perform at a high level in every way.

people think speedsters should catch at a 75% rate on streaks or that their 25 strength and 35 carry should allow them to hold on to the ball as a big ass LB or SS racks them.


when you build towards something you have to have an idea in mind. If you want a real speedster, then expect a lower catching % and more knocked loose balls, but understand that you can be a home run hitter. If you want a possession receiver, don't expect to be burning CBs on streak routes.

And most of all, get your OC to put them in a successful position

Originally posted by RobertRJS
people think their guys have to always perform at a high level in every way.

people think speedsters should catch at a 75% rate on streaks or that their 25 strength and 35 carry should allow them to hold on to the ball as a big ass LB or SS racks them.


when you build towards something you have to have an idea in mind. If you want a real speedster, then expect a lower catching % and more knocked loose balls, but understand that you can be a home run hitter. If you want a possession receiver, don't expect to be burning CBs on streak routes.

And most of all, get your OC to put them in a successful position

but i want it all!!!

i want to pwn!!!

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Anatomy of a GLB football move:

Once a player makes 12 steps after catching a ball, it is the equivalent of a GLB football move, and you may no longer have a pass knocked loose.


Step 1 - We admit we are powerless over whether a defender knocks the ball out of our hands
Step 2 - We must listen to the higher powers that tell us that carrying will help prevent passes from being knocked loose
Step 3 - We make a decision to train carrying to adequate levels
Step 4 - We search our players for other stats that may be lacking
Step 5 - Admit to ourselves, and everyone else on these forums, the exact nature of our wrong building techniques
Step 6 - We ready ourselves to fix all the defects of our player
Step 7 - We humbly remove any shortcomings from our player
Step 8 - We make a list of all the people we have harmed with our false build opinions
Step 9 - We make amends to all these people, except in the case where this would lead to that person retiring
Step 10 - Continue to monitor our build and admit when we make further mistakes
Step 11 - We seek through the forum to improve our contact with higher powers, and pray for further knowledge from he who is named Bort
Step 12 - When enlightened by Bort, we must carry his word to other team forums who may not practice these principles already

After the 12th step you have caught the pass and may no longer have it knocked loose.


Consequently, anytime you drop the ball after the 12th step, it is a fumble...

Originally posted by RobertRJS


And most of all, get your OC to put them in a successful position

I think you key on something there. I don't know how many coaching trees there are in GLB, but there seems to be a lot of copycat offenses out there. I see the same plays ran over and over. Part of this comes out of a limited playbook, but there is another factor at play. OC's have learned which play works most often for another team, and copy it in their AI. The result varies depending on the builds they are working with.

You can run the screen, but if you don't have the right back it won't work. The same is true with sending speed WR's over the middle. So everyone ends up running streaks, as the builds dictate. I see ImTheScientist's WR catch balls over the middle, then power to first downs all the time. His build is has a ton of strength and carrying. So there are other options out there. It is expensive to experiment with the position though.

Originally posted by datongw
So another "nerf" to the defense. WRs catch balls in triple coverage all the time, knocked loose helps balance the WR's domination over DBs somewhat, now that's probably taken away.

I love how people come out and say my WR has 60+ catching and 60 carrying so the ball should never be knocked loose. So what!!! My NT has 120 strength, 85 tackling and he misses tackles. It's not all about your dots making the play, it's about everyone's dots. For all the people on defense who invested in strength and jack hammer, it should work sometimes, no?

From season 8 to season 9 my drops almost quintupled for my TE, this is just balancing it out. I'm sure you would be pissed if all the sudden your DT missed 5 times more tackles from one season to another? You say WRs make catches in triple couvarge, but something that is more common is a DB/LB who has a inferior build just happens to stick to the reiciever like glue. Also jackhammer will still work, there are still plenty of people who don't have enough carrying or strength to win the roll even with nerves of steel, this is just making the people who should hold onto the ball, actually hold onto the ball

yeah, the one thing that kills me with the WR is the price. should be 200, but wtvr.

Cassius Clay has been great for the game, imo. When no one was using confidence, he was using it. Then he went to strength/carry. he at least demonstrated you don't have to just be about speed.

About 3 seasons ago, I'm pretty sure everyone would have lol'd at my build for Catcher, but that's when he had his best season (and the best personnel and coordinator around him, I might add). Nowadays I see a lot of builds in that same direction. People figured out that you don't have to be all 110 speed to succeed.

not that my WR is a huge success, but I built him to be a slot receiver and he's generally been reliable as one, and that's what I was always going for so I'm content. Still pisses me off I have 10 in kicking and punting though. Damn n00b.

Originally posted by RobertRJS
yeah, the one thing that kills me with the WR is the price. should be 200, but wtvr.

Cassius Clay has been great for the game, imo. When no one was using confidence, he was using it. Then he went to strength/carry. he at least demonstrated you don't have to just be about speed.

About 3 seasons ago, I'm pretty sure everyone would have lol'd at my build for Catcher, but that's when he had his best season (and the best personnel and coordinator around him, I might add). Nowadays I see a lot of builds in that same direction. People figured out that you don't have to be all 110 speed to succeed.

not that my WR is a huge success, but I built him to be a slot receiver and he's generally been reliable as one, and that's what I was always going for so I'm content. Still pisses me off I have 10 in kicking and punting though. Damn n00b.

I have to agree
I see so many WR's getting speed up but only have like 20 strenght

Whn I retrid my level 60 WR he had 60+ strenght. I htink last season he had less then 20 case of "knocked loose"

Some tend to gorget what a great atrribute strenght can be for WR

I have seen 105-110 speed WR's with 60+ strenght do a lot better then a 120+ speed WR
But jmo.

Originally posted by joe1865
From season 8 to season 9 my drops almost quintupled for my TE

This.

http://goallineblitz.com/game/full_player_stats.pl?player_id=37070&playoffs=0

From 0 to 23 in one season, and 15 the season after. The introduction of various VA obviously played a huge part in his decline against which there really was no way to protect yourself. It was just a pretty automatic decline.

Originally posted by Koncorde
This.

http://goallineblitz.com/game/full_player_stats.pl?player_id=37070&playoffs=0

From 0 to 23 in one season, and 15 the season after. The introduction of various VA obviously played a huge part in his decline against which there really was no way to protect yourself. It was just a pretty automatic decline.

another VA that's overpowered? no way!

That has never happened before!

lol