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*sigh*

Whole thread has become Garbage in and Garbage out

 
Bogleg
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Originally posted by Troymk1
*sigh*

Whole thread has become Garbage in and Garbage out



Really it's just a bunch of drivel and assumptions (including me) until we hear from the Bort

 
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it's a damn shame this thread died after it was moved to this dump forum
 
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I'm disappointed more people haven't posted whether they've seen a change in their players' performances.
 
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Originally posted by thunderdoozer
I'm disappointed more people haven't posted whether they've seen a change in their players' performances.


Well, PT's WR just had his first game since the change. Speed topped out at 35.79, as far as I can tell, which is a far cry from the "40-ish" in the OP.
http://goallineblitz.com/game/replay.pl?game_id=720890&pbp_id=10718202

The script measured him at 37.83 in his first play in the prior game: http://goallineblitz.com/game/replay.pl?game_id=720889&pbp_id=9895600

And 40.00 in an 80yd TD catch the game before that: http://goallineblitz.com/game/replay.pl?game_id=720888&pbp_id=9083422

He didn't have any plays of that variety in today's game, though
Edited by Bogleg on Sep 3, 2009 06:20:27
 
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Originally posted by TrevJo
Originally posted by Cryptotich

My point was there is no X-Factor


Apparently you missed this whole thread, good job.

Originally posted by Cryptotich

if I have more TD's than him, then I MUST have a higher X-Factor.


No, that logic does not follow.

Originally posted by Cryptotich

You said I was just average


No, I didn't. I don't think you know what you are talking about, we will just have to agree to disagree on this one. I'm not interested in anything more you have to say on the subject.


 
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Originally posted by Bogleg
Really it's just a bunch of drivel and assumptions (including me) until we hear from the Bort



Don't hold your breath. We are supposed to hear from him today after he got to look at a couple WRs.

I haven't seen one position other than WR impacted by this change which is extremely odd. Just as odd as having data errors during transfers for the exact same players every single game, some of which made them worse, some of which made them better. Just fucking weird.

This is also exposing how some teams and/or certain levels are being held back by a hidden factor.

Bort needs to be talking right now. He needs to be clear on this stuff. He needs to not beat around the bush and answer questions with questions. Hopefully it will happen but likely it wont.
 
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Even though in the past - they got under my skin -

I'm starting to develop a real fondness for the 'STOP ANALYZING THINGS!!" crowd - if you just give them a chance - they really are pretty entertaining.
 
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Originally posted by PierreThomas
Don't hold your breath. We are supposed to hear from him today after he got to look at a couple WRs.

I haven't seen one position other than WR impacted by this change which is extremely odd. Just as odd as having data errors during transfers for the exact same players every single game, some of which made them worse, some of which made them better. Just fucking weird.

This is also exposing how some teams and/or certain levels are being held back by a hidden factor.

Bort needs to be talking right now. He needs to be clear on this stuff. He needs to not beat around the bush and answer questions with questions. Hopefully it will happen but likely it wont.


Couldn't agree more -

Enough with the vague double talk - let's have some clear; well communicated answers....

Just like we saw whenever that bug was in place so supposedly SOME people had a crap load of extra skill points through exploiting - at that time - Bort gave details....he ran reports....he gave us the info gathered from those reports...he spent time massaging the community.....

Do that again Bort -

is there anyway to know who's players were bugged (per height/weight)?
is there anyway to come up with a number or a % of the player base that was affected (define the problem)?

Pretty scary that a bug of this magnitude (if that's what it is) survived 11 seasons without being discovered....pretty scary that this topic has been discussed ad nauseum for months and we've been laughed at by mods/admins; just makes me wonder - what other massive bugs are in the programming? I would bet some of the SA's are for starters.
 
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Originally posted by PierreThomas

Bort needs to be talking right now.


Bort is talking, his posts are just getting lost during transmission.
 
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Originally posted by TxSteve
Couldn't agree more -

Enough with the vague double talk - let's have some clear; well communicated answers....



It boggles my mind how spending thousands of dollars on something still doesn't afford you a straight answer. The reason you won't get one is because Bort coded x-factor and now that it's gone horribly wrong he is trying to "uncode" it or should I say *cough* fix it. You see this is a mmorpg first of all and the goal of an mmorpg is to have the player on a treadmill with a carrot on stick just out of reach. Always having something to strive for and that carrot on a stick in this case is rolling a player with x-factor. What Bort failed to realise until now is that that's not the proper way to run a business. Why should one person get more entertainment value for his dollar than another person?

I also want to voice my displeasure with the mod that moved this thread here. Similar to how a ref should NEVER be the deciding factor in a fight, the best mods are the ones that encourage the flow of discussion and only step in when things get derailed. There was great progress done in this thead and it was moved here knowing full well that no one reads this god damn forum.

*glares* at Jed.
Edited by GoKu777 on Sep 3, 2009 11:19:07
 
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Originally posted by GoKu777
It boggles my mind how spending thousands of dollars on something still doesn't afford you a straight answer. The reason you won't get one is because Bort coded x-factor and now that it's gone horribly wrong he is trying to "uncode" it or should I say *cough* fix it. You see this is a mmorpg first of all and the goal of an mmorpg is to have the player on a treadmill with a carrot on stick just out of reach. Always having something to strive for and that carrot on a stick in this case is rolling a player with x-factor. What Bort failed to realise until now is that that's not the proper way to run a business. Why should one person get more entertainment value for his dollar than another person?

I also want to voice my displeasure with the mod that moved this thread here. Similar to how a ref should NEVER be the deciding factor in a fight, the best mods are the ones that encourage the flow of discussion and only step in when things get derailed. There was great progress done in this thead and it was moved here knowing full well that no one reads this god damn forum.

*glares* at Jed.


A lot of the mods here do a very poor job of moderating threads that they disagree with or don't like.
 
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Maybe I don't understand. Let me check...

35-ish speed:
http://goallineblitz.com/game/player.pl?player_id=505128

http://goallineblitz.com/game/game.pl?game_id=780649&mode=pbp
http://goallineblitz.com/game/replay.pl?game_id=780649&pbp_id=11026502 (35.36)
http://goallineblitz.com/game/replay.pl?game_id=780649&pbp_id=11029335 (37.50)
http://goallineblitz.com/game/replay.pl?game_id=780649&pbp_id=11029913 (35.36)
http://goallineblitz.com/game/replay.pl?game_id=780649&pbp_id=11031002 (35.79)
http://goallineblitz.com/game/replay.pl?game_id=780649&pbp_id=11031573 (37.50)

http://goallineblitz.com/game/game.pl?game_id=780648&mode=pbp
http://goallineblitz.com/game/replay.pl?game_id=780648&pbp_id=10202929 (37.58)
http://goallineblitz.com/game/replay.pl?game_id=780648&pbp_id=10203650 (35.79)
http://goallineblitz.com/game/replay.pl?game_id=780648&pbp_id=10204327 (37.50)
http://goallineblitz.com/game/replay.pl?game_id=780648&pbp_id=10204388 (37.58)
http://goallineblitz.com/game/replay.pl?game_id=780648&pbp_id=10204838 (35.36)

...really... 35ish speed?



Looks much more like 37.58 to me, no?



40-ish speed:
http://goallineblitz.com/game/player.pl?player_id=835503

http://goallineblitz.com/game/game.pl?game_id=720890&mode=pbp
http://goallineblitz.com/game/replay.pl?game_id=720890&pbp_id=10718202 (35.79)
http://goallineblitz.com/game/replay.pl?game_id=720890&pbp_id=10718442 (35.36)
http://goallineblitz.com/game/replay.pl?game_id=720890&pbp_id=10718723 (35.09)
http://goallineblitz.com/game/replay.pl?game_id=720890&pbp_id=10718748 (35.09)
http://goallineblitz.com/game/replay.pl?game_id=720890&pbp_id=10718793 (35.09)
http://goallineblitz.com/game/replay.pl?game_id=720890&pbp_id=10718883 (35.36)
http://goallineblitz.com/game/replay.pl?game_id=720890&pbp_id=10720103 (35.36)
http://goallineblitz.com/game/replay.pl?game_id=720890&pbp_id=10720283 (35.79)

http://goallineblitz.com/game/game.pl?game_id=720889
http://goallineblitz.com/game/replay.pl?game_id=720889&pbp_id=9895600 (37.83)
http://goallineblitz.com/game/replay.pl?game_id=720889&pbp_id=9895918 (37.83)
http://goallineblitz.com/game/replay.pl?game_id=720889&pbp_id=9896008 (37.58)
http://goallineblitz.com/game/replay.pl?game_id=720889&pbp_id=9896135 (35.79)
http://goallineblitz.com/game/replay.pl?game_id=720889&pbp_id=9896170 (35.79)
http://goallineblitz.com/game/replay.pl?game_id=720889&pbp_id=9896618 (38.08)
http://goallineblitz.com/game/replay.pl?game_id=720889&pbp_id=9896704 (35.09)
http://goallineblitz.com/game/replay.pl?game_id=720889&pbp_id=9896813 (35.36)
http://goallineblitz.com/game/replay.pl?game_id=720889&pbp_id=9897382 (37.50)
http://goallineblitz.com/game/replay.pl?game_id=720889&pbp_id=9897544 (37.17)

...really... 40-ish speed?

Looks much more like 38.08 to me, no?

More than 1.000 posts, but nobody checked the facts?

o_O
 
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Originally posted by RAPB
Maybe I don't understand. Let me check...

35-ish speed:
http://goallineblitz.com/game/player.pl?player_id=505128

http://goallineblitz.com/game/game.pl?game_id=780649&mode=pbp
http://goallineblitz.com/game/replay.pl?game_id=780649&pbp_id=11026502 (35.36)
http://goallineblitz.com/game/replay.pl?game_id=780649&pbp_id=11029335 (37.50)
http://goallineblitz.com/game/replay.pl?game_id=780649&pbp_id=11029913 (35.36)
http://goallineblitz.com/game/replay.pl?game_id=780649&pbp_id=11031002 (35.79)
http://goallineblitz.com/game/replay.pl?game_id=780649&pbp_id=11031573 (37.50)

http://goallineblitz.com/game/game.pl?game_id=780648&mode=pbp
http://goallineblitz.com/game/replay.pl?game_id=780648&pbp_id=10202929 (37.58)
http://goallineblitz.com/game/replay.pl?game_id=780648&pbp_id=10203650 (35.79)
http://goallineblitz.com/game/replay.pl?game_id=780648&pbp_id=10204327 (37.50)
http://goallineblitz.com/game/replay.pl?game_id=780648&pbp_id=10204388 (37.58)
http://goallineblitz.com/game/replay.pl?game_id=780648&pbp_id=10204838 (35.36)

...really... 35ish speed?



Looks much more like 37.58 to me, no?



40-ish speed:
http://goallineblitz.com/game/player.pl?player_id=835503

http://goallineblitz.com/game/game.pl?game_id=720890&mode=pbp
http://goallineblitz.com/game/replay.pl?game_id=720890&pbp_id=10718202 (35.79)
http://goallineblitz.com/game/replay.pl?game_id=720890&pbp_id=10718442 (35.36)
http://goallineblitz.com/game/replay.pl?game_id=720890&pbp_id=10718723 (35.09)
http://goallineblitz.com/game/replay.pl?game_id=720890&pbp_id=10718748 (35.09)
http://goallineblitz.com/game/replay.pl?game_id=720890&pbp_id=10718793 (35.09)
http://goallineblitz.com/game/replay.pl?game_id=720890&pbp_id=10718883 (35.36)
http://goallineblitz.com/game/replay.pl?game_id=720890&pbp_id=10720103 (35.36)
http://goallineblitz.com/game/replay.pl?game_id=720890&pbp_id=10720283 (35.79)

http://goallineblitz.com/game/game.pl?game_id=720889
http://goallineblitz.com/game/replay.pl?game_id=720889&pbp_id=9895600 (37.83)
http://goallineblitz.com/game/replay.pl?game_id=720889&pbp_id=9895918 (37.83)
http://goallineblitz.com/game/replay.pl?game_id=720889&pbp_id=9896008 (37.58)
http://goallineblitz.com/game/replay.pl?game_id=720889&pbp_id=9896135 (35.79)
http://goallineblitz.com/game/replay.pl?game_id=720889&pbp_id=9896170 (35.79)
http://goallineblitz.com/game/replay.pl?game_id=720889&pbp_id=9896618 (38.08)
http://goallineblitz.com/game/replay.pl?game_id=720889&pbp_id=9896704 (35.09)
http://goallineblitz.com/game/replay.pl?game_id=720889&pbp_id=9896813 (35.36)
http://goallineblitz.com/game/replay.pl?game_id=720889&pbp_id=9897382 (37.50)
http://goallineblitz.com/game/replay.pl?game_id=720889&pbp_id=9897544 (37.17)

...really... 40-ish speed?

Looks much more like 38.08 to me, no?

More than 1.000 posts, but nobody checked the facts?

o_O



I believe the 1st game that you list for the second WR came *after* the change was made....
 
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Originally posted by tautology


I believe the 1st game that you list for the second WR came *after* the change was made....


True.

On the other hand, this is the "35-ish" guy:
http://goallineblitz.com/game/replay.pl?game_id=780635&pbp_id=7720487 (37.83)
http://goallineblitz.com/game/replay.pl?game_id=780635&pbp_id=7720545 (37.83)
http://goallineblitz.com/game/replay.pl?game_id=780646&pbp_id=6871347 (42.72)

...and it's damn hard to track him down, for he plays special teams (tires fast) and barely ever runs deep routes.

Has anyone considered a higher SA Field General by the QB too? Or a higher SA Smooth Operator by the opposing CB?
Edited by RAPB on Sep 3, 2009 19:00:31
 
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