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Ken1
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Originally posted by drifter
Originally posted by Ken1

GG did have one good idea in this thread, and that is to work harder to promote specialization.

Many of the suggested VA's are worthwhile for many or all positions, while many are only worthwhile for a few or even one.

It's important that there be 20 or so relevant VA's for any given player (except perhaps punters and kickers, as that's likely too hard to do), so that if one can only place points in five, one has to make choices and specialize. Not having soft caps for VA's will be one way, but more is better.

I do think the 100th point costing the same as the first will make a difference, as if they're anything like SA's, one probably won't notice much from them until they're pretty high, which is incentive to specialize (and to hit 100, one would have to put all 5 points from each VL through 20 into one, so anyone hitting 100 will be extremely specialized).

They also have to be balanced by usefulness, such that if "Clutch" is used, it sounds like something everyone will understandably want, but the bonuses in Clutch situations should be smaller than the bonuses of other VA's in their situations, in order to balance out.



I don't think you need to do that. Clutch is only going to come up in certain situations which really come about fairly infrequently. I would definie clutch as plays late in the game when the game is on the line. I would not broaden it to include any 3rd or 4th down situation at any point in the game. Others will happen on every single play you are involved with. I think that balances itself out.


Okay, as long as it's limited such that it probably would be in play the least often of all the VA's.

Obviously, a part of the idea is to bring more specialization and variety, and that only works if people choose different items.
 
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wonderful idea, i noticed i started to get bored with my level 28 CB, and i kinda dont pay anymore attention to him, this would really make me more active with my CB






Also, what if you got 2 prestige points for each player to start off with?
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I just got on the suggestion forum to make a post about the same sort of thing. I am getting bored. I tried to start new players but so far 8 is enough. I do not want to have to make 20 players to stay interested. I know Bort has some ideas in the works to give us more to do but damn this is so slow now. I would be happy with faster leveling or being able to upgrade custom equipment. Something to get me out of the rut. Please we need something to do, 3 or 4 lvls in a season is horrible and boring.
 
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I'm all for giving players more options, and giving people new development options - and possibly reasons not to retire guys when the decline starts. There's some great ideas here.

I'm definitely opposed to giving pro players more options than those in leagues below them. Sure, people want the best teams to be in Pro, and they're moving that way, however slowly. But penalizing teams who get to pro through their hard work, dedicated players, time spent recruiting, etc. vs. teams who got there by being there first I can't support. The owners getting Pro teams in other leagues didn't pay more for their team, and they already have a recruiting advantage by being able to say they have a pro team.

But as far as the base ideas at hand here, I'm all for veteran attributes, as well as having the option to boost veteran levels instead of normal, should people be so inclined.
 
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What about kickers and punters?
 
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i didnt feel like reading through almost 30 pages so, is this going to actually come into effect? if so, then when? cause i got a lvl 30, 31, and 32 right now.
 
Ken1
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Originally posted by Buckeyes33
i didnt feel like reading through almost 30 pages so, is this going to actually come into effect? if so, then when? cause i got a lvl 30, 31, and 32 right now.


From what Bort has said, I'm cautiously optimistic.
 
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Originally posted by Ken1
Originally posted by Buckeyes33

i didnt feel like reading through almost 30 pages so, is this going to actually come into effect? if so, then when? cause i got a lvl 30, 31, and 32 right now.


From what Bort has said, I'm cautiously optimistic.


I really really like the idea, as does DD. Some version of it will make its way in as soon as I can get it done. In the meantime you'll have the training and equipment updates coming up.
 
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Originally posted by Bort
Originally posted by Ken1

Originally posted by Buckeyes33


i didnt feel like reading through almost 30 pages so, is this going to actually come into effect? if so, then when? cause i got a lvl 30, 31, and 32 right now.


From what Bort has said, I'm cautiously optimistic.


I really really like the idea, as does DD. Some version of it will make its way in as soon as I can get it done. In the meantime you'll have the training and equipment updates coming up.



Are you going to give us more info on these updates or are they like SA's... a big mystery.
 
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Originally posted by thehazyone
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Originally posted by Ken1


Originally posted by Buckeyes33



i didnt feel like reading through almost 30 pages so, is this going to actually come into effect? if so, then when? cause i got a lvl 30, 31, and 32 right now.


From what Bort has said, I'm cautiously optimistic.


I really really like the idea, as does DD. Some version of it will make its way in as soon as I can get it done. In the meantime you'll have the training and equipment updates coming up.



Are you going to give us more info on these updates or are they like SA's... a big mystery.


Soon...soon.
 
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Originally posted by Bort

Soon...soon.


When will then be now?
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Originally posted by Painmaker
Originally posted by Bort


Soon...soon.


When will then be now?
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Be patient. Bort knows when the time is right. I'm sure he has to set it up and test before he actually puts it onto the game.
 
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Never watched Spaceballs I take it? No worries.
 
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Originally posted by rko_mark_2006
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Originally posted by Bort



Soon...soon.


When will then be now?
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Be patient. Bort knows when the time is right. I'm sure he has to set it up and test before he actually puts it onto the game.


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There should be Something to increase the confidence of the entire team similiar to the "Future Coach"
 
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