Warrior General Games

Originally posted by Bort
- When you visit the store, 3 items that are level and class appropriate are randomly generated. You don't have to buy them. They will stick around until you "refresh" the store or choose to buy one.

When you buy one, will the other two go away? Or will only the one you bought be replaced by something new?

Originally posted by easycheez
I understand your point completely. But, let's face it, we've all watched the replays and thought to ourselves "Wow, that Ace Trips Pitch Weak sure rocks..." If you have a team that you can watch game film and identify that they just leave the standard Nickel Defense - Pass Focus in for every 3 WR set you'd be able to specifically run out of 3 WR sets. I know Bort is adding more plays but, really, even before adding a single new play (or even discussing any sort of trick plays) I just think it would be fantastic if we could pick the plays and not just the vague "WR MED PASS" options now.

I mean, try running FB MED passes. You line up in plays that don't even field a FB. We used our scrimmage games to run the various combos of passing plays to learn what formations are run from each setting and, aside from long=3-5 WRs, there was basically zero correlation. I would certainly love to be able to control my offense and not just say "Eh, pass it to whomever."

You do realize that the majority of players here don't control an offense or a defense. I'm not among that majority. I'm in the lucky minority like you that get to game plan.

What he added this year is for the majority, because they didn't have enough to do. Look beyond just what makes the game interesting for you and think about how you'd feel if you didn't have the opportunity to own or GM.

Originally posted by TrevJo
Originally posted by Bort

- When you visit the store, 3 items that are level and class appropriate are randomly generated. You don't have to buy them. They will stick around until you "refresh" the store or choose to buy one.

When you buy one, will the other two go away? Or will only the one you bought be replaced by something new?

the other 2 will go away.

More customization like with your character and team uniforms would be cool.

Originally posted by notorioushate
More customization like with your character and team uniforms would be cool.

Would be neat, but seems like a long ways off.

wow, Im all for change and advancement of the game
but no part of this update sounds like a good thing

this all went through the alpha testers and they couldnt talk you out of it?

hmm okay one more try to state my case:

look bort...i understand players come to you and say "hey im bored, give me something to do or i quit" so you want to satisfy these guys...

BUT

this agents have typically one player and dont buy FP to wear custom gear or boost (so they dont bring in money). do you really think these guys will start to buy FP because you gave them fancy gear, energy drinks and training options?
do you really think that?

and believe me....agents who spend money on this game and play it cause they love football arnt bored with the current system because:

if you spend money on this game you dont have 1 player...you have 5/10/15 or even more. so have to check 15+ players per day/respond to 3-5 team forums/check the forum for news/check the FAQ forum for interesting info
beside that if you have a bunch of players you become a GM/owner sooner or later...
so you arnt bored even as non-GM/owner agent...

but remember these guys spend money on this game, these guys made you and GLB what it is nowadays.

so you are listing to the wrong part of glb users....you screw agents who paid/pay a lot of money cause they love the game, want to have a lot of players and so on to satisfy non paying (or 3 bucks a season) agents.

and beside that there are more important things to fix....the economy system will collapse sooner or later if you dont change the system...richer getting rich and so on...non playoff teams wont be able to afford player demands (level 24 gear is 200k, level 32 gear is 800k) so they will lose the players and when they lose high level players the wont make the playoffs again and miss out the next stadium upgrades over and over -> they will never recover they will stay a mid tier/low-end team and will get sold back sooner or later and we all know that gutted teams cant brought back on track with the current system

im not saying im against changes....changes are good for the game and needed...if the changes make the game better....fix old things first before adding new stuff which needs to be fixed next season and so on...

Originally posted by Godzirra
Originally posted by Bort

Originally posted by F8n4tune


Originally posted by Godzirra



Originally posted by easycheez




I'm okay with the changes but I'm saddened that the emphasis is on the RPG 'one game boost' items and not the ability to play call. I think that people with football knowledge should be able to actually create plays (to an extent) so that a grown-man with play calling know-how can outplay a 14-year old kid that has players with tons of boosting items.

QFT

But you guys do understand that there are NOT enough FOOTBALL guys that PLAY ONLINE GAMES to keep the game afloat right ? I'm ALL for the football stuff and can do a little , not as intricate as some on here but you can bet that MOST people playing this game are just gamers that LIKE football.

That's very true. Plenty of Europeans on here didn't even know the rules of football before they started. So...that means it shouldn't be a fun game for them?

And this once cool game will become yet another boring RPG which is what most of us are NOT here for. If I wanted that I'd still be playing WoW.

On second thought... My HB could do some damage with a +5 Ring of invisibility.

There may not be 10 million football fans that like to play online games... but there is probably a smaller portion of online gamers that like football online. They may like football... but most online gamers will not be logging into GLB to get their RPG or MMORPG kicks... they'll go to WoW, EQ, DnD, LotrO, Even PotBS... before coming here.


EXACTLY and thats why you stay true to the real fans...from the beginning...and when you start going with the fad the cash its called SELLING OUT!!!!!!!!!!!! The whole reason i started playing was because this was an MMORPG for me...there are thousands upons thousands of RPGS out there with tons of magical items and hidden dragons and all that good crap...theirs only one RPG that i know of that deals with American Football...if it becomes like everything else it will lose its uniqueness and then will be lame and boring like all the others...why follow the pack...whats wrong with doing something new and keeping it that way???

Suggestion for offense: More important than more play options would be some simple controls: Which side to run to for example. Offensive subs for specific plays (3rd down backs, etc).

Originally posted by Ken1
Originally posted by easycheez

I understand your point completely. But, let's face it, we've all watched the replays and thought to ourselves "Wow, that Ace Trips Pitch Weak sure rocks..." If you have a team that you can watch game film and identify that they just leave the standard Nickel Defense - Pass Focus in for every 3 WR set you'd be able to specifically run out of 3 WR sets. I know Bort is adding more plays but, really, even before adding a single new play (or even discussing any sort of trick plays) I just think it would be fantastic if we could pick the plays and not just the vague "WR MED PASS" options now.

I mean, try running FB MED passes. You line up in plays that don't even field a FB. We used our scrimmage games to run the various combos of passing plays to learn what formations are run from each setting and, aside from long=3-5 WRs, there was basically zero correlation. I would certainly love to be able to control my offense and not just say "Eh, pass it to whomever."

You do realize that the majority of players here don't control an offense or a defense. I'm not among that majority. I'm in the lucky minority like you that get to game plan.

What he added this year is for the majority, because they didn't have enough to do. Look beyond just what makes the game interesting for you and think about how you'd feel if you didn't have the opportunity to own or GM.

Good point Ken1. The AI was rolled out last season. The season Bort is putting in things for the players, which was the big topic last season.

Bort is one man who is continually trying to make this game better.

Originally posted by czman
Originally posted by Bort

Originally posted by czman


Originally posted by TurboBoxer



Originally posted by cwrujosh




The issue is not what's the difference between adding +1 to gloves and buying gloves that that are +1. No one really thinks that's a problem or any different.

The problem is what happens with ALREADY EXISTING equipment. I haven't seen anything in his posts or responses (granted this thread is 42 pages long and I might have missed it) that addresses how these new pieces of equipment will interact with existing pieces of equipment. THAT is what concerns high level players, especially those that may have already reached 32 and had owners spend $800k on their equipment.

Bort stated earlier (i went through all the pages, only reading what Bort posted) that the new equipment will use the same equipment slots as the old equipment. Meaning if you get "catching gloves" (new equipment) you will have to remove your old gloves and equip the new ones.

So if I have gloves that are +2 strength/blocking and I want to get a pair of gloves that have +3 strength and +2 blocking I have to hit refresh on the store over and over instead of just using a drop down. Please someone tell me this is not what is going to happen.

You can still buy the basic gear as well.

Sweet thanks for the information.

Ant chance you can help with my financial question?

Will teams need more money for these changes and will there be an opportunity to get more money?

Bueller....Bueller.....Bueller

Originally posted by twikoff


this all went through the alpha testers and they couldnt talk you out of it?

what?

Will injuries be more frequent or less frequent than penalties(ie. false starts)?

I mean everyone was worked up over those and the are pretty infrequent. (Obviously they did not follow the Raiders gameplans) lol

Originally posted by Ken1
Originally posted by easycheez

I understand your point completely. But, let's face it, we've all watched the replays and thought to ourselves "Wow, that Ace Trips Pitch Weak sure rocks..." If you have a team that you can watch game film and identify that they just leave the standard Nickel Defense - Pass Focus in for every 3 WR set you'd be able to specifically run out of 3 WR sets. I know Bort is adding more plays but, really, even before adding a single new play (or even discussing any sort of trick plays) I just think it would be fantastic if we could pick the plays and not just the vague "WR MED PASS" options now.

I mean, try running FB MED passes. You line up in plays that don't even field a FB. We used our scrimmage games to run the various combos of passing plays to learn what formations are run from each setting and, aside from long=3-5 WRs, there was basically zero correlation. I would certainly love to be able to control my offense and not just say "Eh, pass it to whomever."

You do realize that the majority of players here don't control an offense or a defense. I'm not among that majority. I'm in the lucky minority like you that get to game plan.

What he added this year is for the majority, because they didn't have enough to do. Look beyond just what makes the game interesting for you and think about how you'd feel if you didn't have the opportunity to own or GM.

I don't own a team and I'm not a GM, but I would appreciate a FOOTBALL experience. I can play regular RPG's any time I want. I can play Madden any time I want. I hoped when I signed up that this game combined football and RPG realistically--I thought that was the idea...

PLease hire someone to do nothing but work on the offensive playbook...this right now is the single biggest thing I would like to see implemented.....