Warrior General Games

Originally posted by AngryDragon
I like the math but one thing this may over look is the fact that VXP increases at level 30 which if you redo the math I think you would find that getting to level 30 faster will get more VXP. I have not taken the time to do this but it makes sense. If anybody wants to do the math I wuold like to read their findings.

http://goallineblitz.com/veteran_faq.html

That math is easy. If you miss out on half a level, it'll take you 14 days to recoup that level the following season. So you'd miss 350 vet exp. Again, starting from level 22 and going to 25 early.

Originally posted by islander1
Originally posted by AngryDragon

I like the math but one thing this may over look is the fact that VXP increases at level 30 which if you redo the math I think you would find that getting to level 30 faster will get more VXP. I have not taken the time to do this but it makes sense. If anybody wants to do the math I wuold like to read their findings.

http://goallineblitz.com/veteran_faq.html

That math is easy. If you miss out on half a level, it'll take you 14 days to recoup that level the following season. So you'd miss 350 vet exp. Again, starting from level 22 and going to 25 early.

Ok how about the VXP gained at level 35 since someone who waited should reach level 30 first they will also reach level 35 and level 40 first as well? Again I appologize but I am waiting on dinner and math is the furthest thing on my mind right now. Thanks to anybody who would like to map this out.

Originally posted by AngryDragon
Originally posted by islander1

Originally posted by AngryDragon


I like the math but one thing this may over look is the fact that VXP increases at level 30 which if you redo the math I think you would find that getting to level 30 faster will get more VXP. I have not taken the time to do this but it makes sense. If anybody wants to do the math I wuold like to read their findings.

http://goallineblitz.com/veteran_faq.html

That math is easy. If you miss out on half a level, it'll take you 14 days to recoup that level the following season. So you'd miss 350 vet exp. Again, starting from level 22 and going to 25 early.

Ok how about the VXP gained at level 35 since someone who waited should reach level 30 first they will also reach level 35 and level 40 first as well? Again I appologize but I am waiting on dinner and math is the furthest thing on my mind right now. Thanks to anybody who would like to map this out.

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Problem: my original value is off.

it's not 14 days. Not sure what I was thinking. it's 8 days(at most) 3 games at 100 exp +8 days of 25 exp. Thats again, assuming 500 exp is the hit. It might be 400 or whatever as suggested.

So 200 + 200 + 200 for level 40. Out of the 4000 vet exp you'll get from boosting from 22 to 25, you'll lose around 500-600 of it due to taking 8 days (up to 4 games the following season) to make up that 500 exp.

although this doesn't factor in boosting too. I'm not sure how the boosts would work out.

Let's say you finish season 3 at 28.5, you then boost in season 4 to 31.5. Get your 2.5 levels a season.
at season 5, you boost from 34 to 37. Then get to 39.5
season 6, you boost to 42.5.

So, in reality, the boosting might help mitigate the loss. I'm so deep into the math now for midnight...I'm done for.

I think I have been persuaded in favor of boosting. This is a very good topic and discussion. Thanks for all the help.

Now I leave it to my teammates for the final decision.

Originally posted by AngryDragon
I think I have been persuaded in favor of boosting. This is a very good topic and discussion. Thanks for all the help.

Now I leave it to my teammates for the final decision.

I've come to the conclusion that, if you'll actually use the skill points from boosting in your build, to definitely do it.
However, even if you won't use it (like my level 22 won't use the skill points) it's still 50/50 on whether to boost or not. In the end I probably will because given the correct usage of those VAs, it's definitely worth more.

Let's say I gain even just 3 bonus VAs from boosting. My DT has base str of 80(which he will at level 32). 3 VAs in workout warrior = +2.4, and thats even assuming single SP value. in reality, those 2.4 are actually worth what, about 12 SPs?

But other VAs aren't measured in this way, things like clutch, sure tackling, showboat, etc, etc. So that's why I say it's 50/50.

Can't really lose either way, which is interesting.

Does Veteran XP start adding up today or on the rollover from Season 8 Day 0 to Day 1?

yea you get the most bang for your buck boosting from 22-25. Not as much as boosting from 27-30 since you will only lose out on 25 vet exp a day.

Originally posted by Deathblade
Do you think the extra 4 VP's are worth a level or two?

lol a level or 2. Please, he will lose maybe half a level for boosting early.

Originally posted by aj58078
Originally posted by nflcardholder

Probably not, but it makes boosting early a lot less harmful to your player than before.

A lot less? How fucking stupid are you? VA is like the worthless percentages on AE. Theres a reason you dont want the percentages.

In retrospect, this is a hilarious thread.

i did

Originally posted by Deathblade
Originally posted by chaotic646


No, but it would get the ball rolling on Vet experience sooner. Im not saying it would be smart, I just want someone else to figure it out for sure then tell me so I dont have to.

I already did the math.

Weigh 4 VPs against a level.

It's actually about 500xp I believe.

and I boosted my guys that started the season at level 22. If those 4 VA points are in an attribute modifier where the base stat is at 70, you are talking about roughly 12 sp's in value there. Worth much more than 1/2 a level.

edit: and you'll hit level 30 at the start of the next season if you boost early, so you'll start earning the higher VA rate immediately (just like the non-early booster) and you'll hit level 40 at the same time (with preseason boost) as those guys as well. So they are never going to make up the VA deficit during their career.

To revisit this thread, with the new AVAs being what they are worth now, is it still fruitful to boost from 22 to 25 early, or is the XP loss now outweighing the VXP gain?

It's still half a level. Assuming that EXP stops in your 10th season, both types of players (assuming 100% exp for the whole career) actually end at the same level. And it depends on how much you value your positions VAs. I'm in favor of boosting still, since you don't lose an actual level, but you never get those VAs back.

Originally posted by aj58078
A lot less? How fucking stupid are you? VA is like the worthless percentages on AE. Theres a reason you dont want the percentages.

Funny