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Originally posted by Billsman
MY OT hasn't allowed a sack in many seasons.

Many seasons being S9 and S8. Notable for DEs being megabad. Now that OTs and DEs are on the same level now, it's pretty easy to see that bad-build OTs will be raped in the ass.
Needs more agility and speed if that's your problem.

Originally posted by Billsman
MY OT hasn't allowed a sack in many seasons.

because DE's sucked.

Originally posted by Sooner5900
Originally posted by Billsman

MY OT hasn't allowed a sack in many seasons.

because DE's sucked.

This. My DE was picking up more pancakes than sacks.

My OTs haven't had any problems but I guess that's what I get for not putting every point I have into strength if you can pancake a speed DE 30+ times a game why shouldn't they be able to run circles around you. It makes that 100 Blocking 80 agility and 60 vision that my OTs have all worth it now that DEs are at least somewhat relevant again.

Originally posted by DarkRogue
My OTs haven't had any problems but I guess that's what I get for not putting every point I have into strength if you can pancake a speed DE 30+ times a game why shouldn't they be able to run circles around you. It makes that 100 Blocking 80 agility and 60 vision that my OTs have all worth it now that DEs are at least somewhat relevant again.

Yeah, I'll have to invest some speed into my OT but he'll be fine otherwise.

bad built OT imo

http://goallineblitz.com/game/player_game_log.pl?player_id=293541

Your DE has 2 sacks all preseason.

Also, lol'ing at your OT that is averaging over 20 pancakes a game, but giving up sacks, and have the nerve to complain.

O-Line players who whine can go to hell.

Originally posted by Deathblade
http://goallineblitz.com/game/player_game_log.pl?player_id=293541

Your DE has 2 sacks all preseason.

Also, lol'ing at your OT that is averaging over 20 pancakes a game, but giving up sacks, and have the nerve to complain.

Road-grader, I guess. Maybe he'd benefit to a move to guard.

Bort didn't DO anything. It was players, who built up super fast DEs. It was also players, who ignored agility on their OTs. It worked great against the run, but what happens when the OT has to be the one taking a step back to pass block?

Every player guide out there told players not to ignore secondary attributes. Every guide told them not to overlook things like confidence and stamina. If I put a professional body builder in against Julius Peppers, how well do you think he'd do?

Originally posted by Billsman
MY OT hasn't allowed a sack in many seasons.

Lie much?

http://goallineblitz.com/game/replay.pl?game_id=475008&pbp_id=12946012

That took me about 15 seconds to find.

maybe its his other account?

Originally posted by fallingmercury
Originally posted by Billsman

MY OT hasn't allowed a sack in many seasons.

Lie much?

http://goallineblitz.com/game/replay.pl?game_id=475008&pbp_id=12946012

That took me about 15 seconds to find.

I think he's talking about his other OT. Which is also a lie.

The problem with the OT/DE interaction right now is that it's absolutely critical to build OTs a certain way. There's barely any room at all for experimentation or deviation from the cookie cutter build. Deviate much from that and you're almost certain to have a broken player who will hurt his team in extreme ways.

Every other position has a little bit of give. You can create a playable WR in all kinds of ways. CBs have two very different legit builds and maybe more. And if you build somewhat less-than-optimally at WR/CB you're still going to have an adequate and maybe even a solid player.

If you mess around with your OT though - or more likely if you simply don't know that OTs need 70+ agility and 48+ speed by level 40 - you can absolutely cripple your team in very severe and visible ways.

So as long as it's so extraordinarily critical to build OTs a certain way, we'll see wild outcomes.