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Originally posted by Robbnva
so what we need to do is find an 80 agility/speed player and look at replays, anyone know of any?

I can run that setup for our next game.

Originally posted by NiborRis
Originally posted by Doc

Bort said a long time ago that speed was max speed, and agility was acceleration. He later went on to tweak agility so it affected acceleration more. If you had a 50 spd / 100 agi guy, you'd accelerate to your max potential quickly, as opposed to 100 sp / 50 agi where it would take a little longer.

Both are extreme examples, but I think you get the point.

So if speed didn't affect acceleration before, only agility, how could he have tweaked it so that agility affected it "more"? Even having said what he said, it's still quite possible that your max speed affects your acceleration in some way.

For example, 50sp/50 Agi vs 100sp/50 agi: Do they both reach the "50 speed" mark in the same amount of time, and then the 100 sp dot keeps getting faster after that, or does the 100 sp dot get to 50 speed faster?

If it *is* pure agility, then can we start making acceleration charts? ie 20 agi = 3 ft per tick^2 or whatever (although maybe acceleration isn't liner, either - humans don't actually accelerate linearly, but who knows how dots move)

Yes, speed is max speed. Speed and agility affect acceleration, however, Bort modified agility to matter more in acceleration a few seasons back.

Originally posted by mandyross
Good OP.

I would be interested if you ran the perl script on players who were using Big Heart last season and had attributes in the 140s. (Hulk's HB (?), for example), to see what insanely high attributes (especially Speed) bring to the table.

If it's really that acceleration is pure agility, then it's the crazy agility that's making him move like that; or at least making him able to start touching the 100+ speeds. Don't forget that Big Heart and Scat Back are both giving bonuses to Agility too.

Originally posted by Robbnva
so what we need to do is find an 80 agility/speed player and look at replays, anyone know of any?

DLDT TE is higher speed and higher agility

Solid stuff. Thanks!

You know, this really got me thinking and has led me to try some different things.

Originally posted by jamz
Also have to consider that often times after a catch, dots stop to make the catch, then have to accelerate from 0 again

Or slow down to catch the ball because it's not led far enough or poorly thrown.

Originally posted by Bort
Originally posted by jamz

Also have to consider that often times after a catch, dots stop to make the catch, then have to accelerate from 0 again

Or slow down to catch the ball because it's not led far enough or poorly thrown.

First Step only activates from a dead stop. Or is the tool tip wrong?

Originally posted by Doc
Originally posted by Bort

Originally posted by jamz


Also have to consider that often times after a catch, dots stop to make the catch, then have to accelerate from 0 again

Or slow down to catch the ball because it's not led far enough or poorly thrown.

First Step only activates from a dead stop. Or is the tool tip wrong?




Yes, it's from a dead stop or close to it (there's a little leeway for having a very tiny movement vector). I'm referring to the fact that that SPEED SPEED SPEED doesn't necessarily give you as much when your QB can't lead you properly, or you have to slow down to make cuts. While you're waiting for the ball to get there, the defender has a chance to catch up.

Bort, does higher catching or confidence lead to a QB to look your WR's way more times?

haha.. as soon as bort come into GLB thread he gets loaded with questions

Originally posted by jrry32
Bort, does higher catching or confidence lead to a QB to look your WR's way more times?

It can; if you're better than your defender you tend to get more looks.

Originally posted by Bort
Originally posted by jrry32

Bort, does higher catching or confidence lead to a QB to look your WR's way more times?

It can; if you're better than your defender you tend to get more looks.

Yea but lets say you have 2 WRs that are getting about equal seperation and one has higher confidence and catching, is the QB going to look his way first because of the higher catching or confidence? I am wondering if catching or confidence kind of works like go to guy, the WR with the highest of it will get the first look.

Originally posted by Bort
Originally posted by jrry32

Bort, does higher catching or confidence lead to a QB to look your WR's way more times?

It can; if you're better than your defender you tend to get more looks.

Interesting

It seems a LB, SS, or FS, considering he has high enough vision, would still benefit from heavy speed as he usually doesn't have to do as many cuts as an offensive player. They usually pick a line and run to it. Is there something I'm not thinking of?