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tuba_samurai
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Originally posted by silenthatred
Well, I'm giving the benefit of the doubt and hoping this wasn't a knee jerk reaction, so there was some decision process made that this was definitely going to happen well before day 6 and had moved beyond the "idea" phase and into the "how do we implement it" phase. I'm saying that's when the initial announcement should been made. If this all happened yesterday, then my apologies I guess.


If anything has improved about this game lately, it is the amount of information that is being made available to the userbase. Catch has been on the ball with the announcements. If he knew they were ready to make it happen I don't think he would have sat on it for a few weeks.

It seems like a lot of people are panicking because of the changes coming, but a few seasons ago you might not have found out until day 32-40.

I think everyone just needs to get used to the fact that disclosure is improving and that means that they will know about impending changes sooner.

 
Deathblade
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Current tally of people ragequitting over this change: 24

Number of people of that group that are effected by this change: 3
 
kuaggie
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i feel like this nerf is a little too steep
 
tuba_samurai
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Originally posted by Deathblade
Current tally of people ragequitting over this change: 24

Number of people of that group that are effected by this change: 3


p much. If that.
 
suske127
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Originally posted by britdevine316
This is retarded.

Don't hurt % AEQ, fix the freakin SA's so they actually do something


i really agree with both things he says in this
 
taz20075
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Originally posted by silenthatred
That's just a horrible idea. Equipment costs money. You should be able to put it wherever you want if you pay for it imo.


EQ cost loldollars. Seriously though.... I think if you got away from 140 speed, or 120 strength players you'd see some of the problems the sim has resolve themselves.
 
xsujx
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Should have just made no AEQ pieces stackable in the first place. Would have saved a lot of grief.
 
taz20075
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Originally posted by Deathblade
Current tally of people ragequitting over this change: 24

Number of people of that group that are effected by this change: 3


I have 5 of 12 higher level player that will be effected.


Who are the other two people so we can form a facebook group...
 
Mr. Me2
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Originally posted by PP
Originally posted by silenthatred

That's why I said announcing it in the middle of the season and that it obviously wasn't a new idea, so why not announce it earlier? Announcing on day 6 does nothing for the training points I had earned prior to it.


I believe the first time it was mentioned was at some point last ssn, by me. I started a thread on seeing this becoming a bigger and bigger issue. IIRC 2 other testers said they thought it was a good idea, a couple thought it was a non-issue and the rest said nothing. The thread I created on it died in a day or 2, nothing was decided at all. As a matter of fact, I believed it was dead.

It didn't come up again until right around when the Archetypes were announced. At that point Jed mentioned something about any major player build changes we are going to be made should be done along with the archetypes' release. I strongly agreed and took that as an opportunity try to get us to look at this again. It took a couple of days to see that everyone agreed and a couple more to hatch out how to deal with it.

So, yeah....maybe 2 days of shopping were wasted after it was decided we'd do this and were working out how it would be implemented. Honestly, I was beyond thrilled that we were able to get this announced as fast as it was. I don't think it is reasonable to believe that part could have been done better (getting the announcement out faster).


kk, my apologies then. I will just be sure to purchase EQ everytime I roll from now on just in case.
 
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Originally posted by taz20075
Originally posted by silenthatred

That's just a horrible idea. Equipment costs money. You should be able to put it wherever you want if you pay for it imo.


EQ cost loldollars. Seriously though.... I think if you got away from 140 speed, or 120 strength players you'd see some of the problems the sim has resolve themselves.


Well with the archetypes, get ready for those numbers to increase. But 140 speed now leaves you lacking in other areas...120 strength, meh. Just run away from them! I still think it's a bad idea to force people to put equipment in certain places. loldollars buy lolequipment.
 
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I just had a thought on this topic. I think the powerbacks with stacked break tackle AE seem to be the biggest problem. I could be wrong but my thought is about them.

What if the break tackle function was reduced by 50% per broken tackle per play. By this I mean on any given play a powerback gets the ball with 100% of his builds ability to break a tackle. Obviously he does not have a 100% chance to break a tackle but he has 100% of what ever his skills and AE give him. So he breaks his first tackle and now he has 50% of his builds ability to break another tackle in the same play.

The percent continues to reduce every time he breaks a tackle in the same play. Then his ability is reset to 100% for the next play. Fifty percent might be extreme but it is a starting point for testing. I think the idea would be to reduce a players ability to run through the entire defense.
 
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Originally posted by AngryDragon
I just had a thought on this topic. I think the powerbacks with stacked break tackle AE seem to be the biggest problem. I could be wrong but my thought is about them.

What if the break tackle function was reduced by 50% per broken tackle per play.


Because then powerbacks WITHOUT stacked AE won't break any.
 
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Originally posted by britdevine316

Don't hurt % AEQ, fix the freakin SA's so they actually do something


Wouldn't that just be a nerf to +% AEQ anyways?
 
jamz
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Originally posted by xsujx
Should have just made no AEQ pieces stackable in the first place. Would have saved a lot of grief.


Hindsight is 20/20
 
AngryDragon
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Originally posted by pottsman
Because then powerbacks WITHOUT stacked AE won't break any.


They would still have the same chance of breaking a tackle as they do now. Nothing will have changed other than a players ability to brreak multiple tackles in one play. Kind of like the solution to juke and fakes a few seasons ago.
 
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