Originally posted by jea
This is not hard at all. 10 by using SP the rest by using EQ.
omg... he's amazing...
This is not hard at all. 10 by using SP the rest by using EQ.
omg... he's amazing...
Forum > Goal Line Blitz > SAs - 10 + custom + equip, can we confirm it makes a difference to get above 10?
OK... don't tell me the question has been answered... My Guard currently has 14 in pancake (8 of them natural)... I can still upgrade his Advanced Equipment (2 pieces) and gain 3 more from that easily... plus 2 more natural... I could buy 2 more pieces and upgrade those... that puts pancake above 20... Is that going to do any good, or am I wasting my time at a certain level, if so, what level??? It is important to know because I have several players, all using adv. eq. and I have never wasted bonus tokens. Will they be cyborgs trampling over mortals??? or will I be less effective because I didn't put it all in attributes??? Then begs the question... Should I take an attribute over 100 or is that folly?
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Attributes over 100 work just like attributes under 100. SAs over 10 have a diminishing return. They are separate entities with a mutually exclusive effectual criteria.
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Originally posted by Sprocket
SAs over 10 have a diminishing return.
SOME SA's have diminishing returns, depending on how the SA works. None of us know which ones are affected and which aren't.
I would like to know the answer on SA's over 15 as well...if they work or not.
At level 40 you can get 12 AEQ upgrades (enough for two pieces at +4 each), although that's also enough to get three pieces to +3 each for a bonus of +9 to an SA. Add in Custom Equip and a natural 10...you could at L40 have a +20 in an SA.
SAs over 10 have a diminishing return.
SOME SA's have diminishing returns, depending on how the SA works. None of us know which ones are affected and which aren't.
I would like to know the answer on SA's over 15 as well...if they work or not.
At level 40 you can get 12 AEQ upgrades (enough for two pieces at +4 each), although that's also enough to get three pieces to +3 each for a bonus of +9 to an SA. Add in Custom Equip and a natural 10...you could at L40 have a +20 in an SA.
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Originally posted by Sprocket
Attributes over 100 work just like attributes under 100. SAs over 10 have a diminishing return. They are separate entities with a mutually exclusive effectual criteria.
That's why I can't understand people with like 115 when they could have used those SP's somewhere else if this is true ?
Attributes over 100 work just like attributes under 100. SAs over 10 have a diminishing return. They are separate entities with a mutually exclusive effectual criteria.
That's why I can't understand people with like 115 when they could have used those SP's somewhere else if this is true ?
Look at all my players. I like getting SAs over 10. Many of my guys have an SA above 11.
http://goallineblitz.com/game/player.pl?player_id=27220
http://goallineblitz.com/game/player.pl?player_id=32070
http://goallineblitz.com/game/player.pl?player_id=27722
http://goallineblitz.com/game/player.pl?player_id=42174
http://goallineblitz.com/game/player.pl?player_id=235603
http://goallineblitz.com/game/player.pl?player_id=27220
http://goallineblitz.com/game/player.pl?player_id=32070
http://goallineblitz.com/game/player.pl?player_id=27722
http://goallineblitz.com/game/player.pl?player_id=42174
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Originally posted by wormser1971
OK... don't tell me the question has been answered... My Guard currently has 14 in pancake (8 of them natural)... I can still upgrade his Advanced Equipment (2 pieces) and gain 3 more from that easily... plus 2 more natural... I could buy 2 more pieces and upgrade those... that puts pancake above 20... Is that going to do any good, or am I wasting my time at a certain level, if so, what level??? It is important to know because I have several players, all using adv. eq. and I have never wasted bonus tokens. Will they be cyborgs trampling over mortals??? or will I be less effective because I didn't put it all in attributes??? Then begs the question... Should I take an attribute over 100 or is that folly?
It will add a tiny bit to your pancake. From there it is a matter of personal preference. Do you want to do that or spend those points/eq slot on something else.
OK... don't tell me the question has been answered... My Guard currently has 14 in pancake (8 of them natural)... I can still upgrade his Advanced Equipment (2 pieces) and gain 3 more from that easily... plus 2 more natural... I could buy 2 more pieces and upgrade those... that puts pancake above 20... Is that going to do any good, or am I wasting my time at a certain level, if so, what level??? It is important to know because I have several players, all using adv. eq. and I have never wasted bonus tokens. Will they be cyborgs trampling over mortals??? or will I be less effective because I didn't put it all in attributes??? Then begs the question... Should I take an attribute over 100 or is that folly?
It will add a tiny bit to your pancake. From there it is a matter of personal preference. Do you want to do that or spend those points/eq slot on something else.
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If they were designed around base 10, odds are you don't really want to go over them even though you can.
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Originally posted by briansimoneau
Originally posted by Bort
SA at 11 works fine. It's currently just impossible to get it higher, since you can only get a natural 10, and a +1 from your custom equipment.
The new equipment stuff will allow you to get some more +1's, though, so you could theoretically get up to 15.
What about advanced equipment with +1 to a SA? Doesn't that allow you to get past 15?
10 naturally. You can keep upgrading your AEQ but you get +1 SA for every second upgrade. So 16 bonus tokens = +2, 32 bonus tokens = +3, 48 bonus tokens = +4, and 60 bonus tokens = +5.
Originally posted by Bort
SA at 11 works fine. It's currently just impossible to get it higher, since you can only get a natural 10, and a +1 from your custom equipment.
The new equipment stuff will allow you to get some more +1's, though, so you could theoretically get up to 15.
What about advanced equipment with +1 to a SA? Doesn't that allow you to get past 15?
10 naturally. You can keep upgrading your AEQ but you get +1 SA for every second upgrade. So 16 bonus tokens = +2, 32 bonus tokens = +3, 48 bonus tokens = +4, and 60 bonus tokens = +5.
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18 in Big Boot, I get about 70% touchbacks since I got my STR to 60+
In my OAI I have FG Range set to 55 yards
18 in Big Boot, I get about 70% touchbacks since I got my STR to 60+
In my OAI I have FG Range set to 55 yards
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Let's take an example of how I think they might work...the "General" skills, which fire more frequently the higher you get them.
Let's assume the chance of a General Skill firing is the sum of the skill from 1 to it's value.
So...
1 = 1%
2 = 1 + 2 = 3%
3 = 1 + 2 + 3 = 6%
10 = 10 + 9 + 8 + 7 + 6 + 5 + 4 + 3 + 2 + 1 = 55%
Now, that's all fine and dandy. Nothing broken about a 55% chance to fire....but what about 13%?
13 = 13 + 12 + 11 + 55 = 91%
14 = 14 + 91% = 105%
Ok, now we can see it's clearly broken as both of those would likely be far too high. What if instead each value over 10 gave us a flat 5%. Now, this gives a "reduced" increase and isn't as powerful....
13 = 5 + 5 + 5 + 55 = 70%
14 = 75%
which is still more powerful, but not completely broken. I imagine some other of the SA's work kinda like this.
NOTE: This is only an illustrative example and not based on KNOWING how things work.
Let's assume the chance of a General Skill firing is the sum of the skill from 1 to it's value.
So...
1 = 1%
2 = 1 + 2 = 3%
3 = 1 + 2 + 3 = 6%
10 = 10 + 9 + 8 + 7 + 6 + 5 + 4 + 3 + 2 + 1 = 55%
Now, that's all fine and dandy. Nothing broken about a 55% chance to fire....but what about 13%?
13 = 13 + 12 + 11 + 55 = 91%
14 = 14 + 91% = 105%
Ok, now we can see it's clearly broken as both of those would likely be far too high. What if instead each value over 10 gave us a flat 5%. Now, this gives a "reduced" increase and isn't as powerful....
13 = 5 + 5 + 5 + 55 = 70%
14 = 75%
which is still more powerful, but not completely broken. I imagine some other of the SA's work kinda like this.
NOTE: This is only an illustrative example and not based on KNOWING how things work.
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Originally posted by The Strategy Expert
Originally posted by TuNice
Originally posted by The Strategy Expert
11 is the cap, Bort said so. If you get to 11 naturally and try to add equipment then it won't let you, but if you did then that 12th point wouldn't count.
Are you sure? I couldve sworn he said 10 was the natural cap while CE can move it to 11
I don't know if you can get to 11 naturally, i never tried. I'm just saying that in the event you did, you can't get anything for 12. Bort said 11 counts, 12 doesn't end of story.
I love it when people say END OF STORY!!! and are wrong as hell. LMAO nice job
Originally posted by Bort
Originally posted by phthalatemagic
Originally posted by Bort
Originally posted by Nixx
Originally posted by Bort
SA at 11 works fine. It's currently just impossible to get it higher, since you can only get a natural 10, and a +1 from your custom equipment.
The new equipment stuff will allow you to get some more +1's, though, so you could theoretically get up to 15.
Some SAs would be very powerful at 15, heh. I'm sure it'll take at least a few seasons to get it upgraded to that though, right?
Yeah they'd be pretty good, but not a huge ton better than 11 really, based on the way that most of them work. Yes it would take a while to get something to lv 15, not to mention all the SP's you have to spend to get to lv 10 naturally!
But there is a difference between 11 and 15? Or 11 and 10 for that matter? Sorry if I missed it, but I never saw you confirm.
Yes there is a difference.
Originally posted by TuNice
Originally posted by The Strategy Expert
11 is the cap, Bort said so. If you get to 11 naturally and try to add equipment then it won't let you, but if you did then that 12th point wouldn't count.
Are you sure? I couldve sworn he said 10 was the natural cap while CE can move it to 11
I don't know if you can get to 11 naturally, i never tried. I'm just saying that in the event you did, you can't get anything for 12. Bort said 11 counts, 12 doesn't end of story.
I love it when people say END OF STORY!!! and are wrong as hell. LMAO nice job
Originally posted by Bort
Originally posted by phthalatemagic
Originally posted by Bort
Originally posted by Nixx
Originally posted by Bort
SA at 11 works fine. It's currently just impossible to get it higher, since you can only get a natural 10, and a +1 from your custom equipment.
The new equipment stuff will allow you to get some more +1's, though, so you could theoretically get up to 15.
Some SAs would be very powerful at 15, heh. I'm sure it'll take at least a few seasons to get it upgraded to that though, right?
Yeah they'd be pretty good, but not a huge ton better than 11 really, based on the way that most of them work. Yes it would take a while to get something to lv 15, not to mention all the SP's you have to spend to get to lv 10 naturally!
But there is a difference between 11 and 15? Or 11 and 10 for that matter? Sorry if I missed it, but I never saw you confirm.
Yes there is a difference.
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D-Line General = 15 on this player: http://goallineblitz.com/game/player.pl?player_id=786837
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Originally posted by SoCold
Originally posted by The Strategy Expert
Originally posted by TuNice
Originally posted by The Strategy Expert
11 is the cap, Bort said so. If you get to 11 naturally and try to add equipment then it won't let you, but if you did then that 12th point wouldn't count.
Are you sure? I couldve sworn he said 10 was the natural cap while CE can move it to 11
I don't know if you can get to 11 naturally, i never tried. I'm just saying that in the event you did, you can't get anything for 12. Bort said 11 counts, 12 doesn't end of story.
I love it when people say END OF STORY!!! and are wrong as hell. LMAO nice job
I love it when people respond to a post that is nine months old and think they're flaming someone. LMAO nice job
Originally posted by The Strategy Expert
Originally posted by TuNice
Originally posted by The Strategy Expert
11 is the cap, Bort said so. If you get to 11 naturally and try to add equipment then it won't let you, but if you did then that 12th point wouldn't count.
Are you sure? I couldve sworn he said 10 was the natural cap while CE can move it to 11
I don't know if you can get to 11 naturally, i never tried. I'm just saying that in the event you did, you can't get anything for 12. Bort said 11 counts, 12 doesn't end of story.
I love it when people say END OF STORY!!! and are wrong as hell. LMAO nice job
I love it when people respond to a post that is nine months old and think they're flaming someone. LMAO nice job
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