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Originally posted by cosmoxl
Originally posted by dpride59

Originally posted by Bort


Originally posted by jdbolick



Originally posted by 5STAR




this exploit happens on both running plays and passing plays
It's not quite the same. There are occasions in run blocking when a defender goes completely unblocked because of D-line positioning and mindless blocking programming, but while that also happens sometimes in pass blocking, most of the penetration occurs because DLs quickly ping-pong between offensive linemen until the threshold where they're no longer allowed to be blocked.


This. It's mostly stacking speed boosts from multiple break blocks in a row. My once-per-tick update earlier in the season curbed it some when it's done via tunnel vision, but I might need to extend it to all speed boosts from blocking, or put a lower cap on the velocity at which the defender can move.

Dominant D tackles are about where they should be. when you have 120 agility, and 14 shed block you should be able to ping pong!

be prepared to get knocked on your rear, at least that's what should happen since he probably doesn't have much strength.

I'm just going to say 'Untrue'.

I'm not giving away the players build, but they have plenty of strength.

I wonder if QBs had more carrying if they could avoid the sack better. I am guessing that most of these speedy DEs that shoot the gaps don't have much more than 50 tackling. I don't think I have ever seen a QB break a tackle to avoid a sack.

I am probably way off but I still think it would be cool to see a QB shed a sack.

Originally posted by 5STAR
Bort exploits are starting to spread like wildfire on the defensive line just like Islam of season 8.

How about a proactive fix now prior to it running rampant in the playoffs giving us another * season.

Give us shift strong, shift weak or center. Otherwise fix the offensive line blocking code to handle more dynamic situations like we are seeing.

Sincerely,
Concerned loyal Customer



YES...please fix the O-line blocking code. They're idiots out there no matter how much vision or confidence they have.

Originally posted by Sik Wit It
Originally posted by 5STAR

Bort exploits are starting to spread like wildfire on the defensive line just like Islam of season 8.

How about a proactive fix now prior to it running rampant in the playoffs giving us another * season.

Give us shift strong, shift weak or center. Otherwise fix the offensive line blocking code to handle more dynamic situations like we are seeing.

Sincerely,
Concerned loyal Customer



YES...please fix the O-line blocking code. They're idiots out there no matter how much vision or confidence they have.

I wonder how hard it would be to program the dots to think like human blockers...

Example:
On this run play the RG will block
1. Gap
2. Down
3. Backer

On play 2 the RG will block
1. Face
2. Gap
3. Backer

this could be something Bort could add to to the offensive line code to make it more effcient. And their would be no vision checks required since the offensive line always knows who they are blocking pre snap.

Originally posted by 5STAR
this could be something Bort could add to to the offensive line code to make it more effcient. And their would be no vision checks required since the offensive line always knows who they are blocking pre snap.

They know who they are blocking pre-snap because of making reads

im stuck between 2 ways to say somethin about this, so i'll do both....

Waaannhh, this DL got in backfeild so fast he kept me from completing my 7th and 19th passes to a HB in the game. I dont like getting sacked so the dots need to stop moving.

that was 1.

Originally posted by 5STAR
Originally posted by steellithium

Then get rid of defense altogether. Without the ability to move players, defenses get burned.

Just the defensive line since it is the exploit...

Please note this on the DPC...

NOTE: This feature is currently under scrutiny and may have certain features disabled at a later time if there are found to be exploits.

I'll agree that it is exploity. But it is not happening so much that it warrants removing the ability to move around Dline dots, not even temporarily. Just cause DC's found a hot spot or 2 dosent mean the other thousands of positioning combinations should be gotten rid of.

Originally posted by odg62


I'll agree that it is exploity.

all you had to say really...the AIM of the developer should to remove all exploits inside the SIM code.

Those who defend the exploits are the ones who use it the most effectively...no exploit is acceptable.

They should at least know who they're supposed to block pre-play...then if things change like the LE drops into coverage, and they blitz the ROLB or something like that, they should have to pass a vision check. I don't even think they know who they're supposed to block pre-play though. Seems like they just see the dot closest and go "oh hai im blocking u this play". If there's nobody there, they don't know what to do and just stand there. Sometimes if the defender is even too slow, the blocker will even run to the other side of the line to help. My slow ass DT who plays out of position at LE has gotten all of his sacks this way lol.

http://goallineblitz.com/game/replay.pl?game_id=630875&pbp_id=3557949

Gotta love that logic^

thanks for updating the OP.

Originally posted by 5STAR
Originally posted by odg62



I'll agree that it is exploity.

all you had to say really...the AIM of the developer should to remove all exploits inside the SIM code.

Those who defend the exploits are the ones who use it the most effectively...no exploit is acceptable.

What im trying to say is, removing the ability to move DL is overkill.


Saying to fix the DL exploit, Bort should remove the DL moving, is just about the same exact thing as saying to fix the retarded coverage on HBs, Bort should remove passes to HBs.

EDIT: also if no exploit is acceptable and the answer is to take features out, this game wouldnt have any features left.

Originally posted by odg62
Originally posted by 5STAR

Originally posted by odg62




I'll agree that it is exploity.

all you had to say really...the AIM of the developer should to remove all exploits inside the SIM code.

Those who defend the exploits are the ones who use it the most effectively...no exploit is acceptable.

What im trying to say is, removing the ability to move DL is overkill.

Saying to fix the DL exploit, Bort should remove the DL moving, is just about the same exact thing as saying to fix the retarded coverage on HBs, Bort should remove passes to HBs.

but the DCs are the ones who create the retarded HB coverage....the SIM creates the retarded blocking

Do you see a difference?

Originally posted by 5STAR
Those who defend the exploits are the ones who use it the most effectively...no exploit is acceptable.

p sure nobody is defending the exploit, and if they are, it is indeed pretty sad.

However, defending removing options from the game entirely because of an exploit....they are in the right laughing at that.

Originally posted by 5STAR
Originally posted by odg62

Originally posted by 5STAR


Originally posted by odg62





I'll agree that it is exploity.

all you had to say really...the AIM of the developer should to remove all exploits inside the SIM code.

Those who defend the exploits are the ones who use it the most effectively...no exploit is acceptable.

What im trying to say is, removing the ability to move DL is overkill.

Saying to fix the DL exploit, Bort should remove the DL moving, is just about the same exact thing as saying to fix the retarded coverage on HBs, Bort should remove passes to HBs.

but the DCs are the ones who create the retarded HB coverage....the SIM creates the retarded blocking

Do you see a difference?

Your wrong about the HB coverage. That is not true at all. Thats a myth made up by people who are trying to rationalize throwing 75% of their passes to HBs.

There should probably be a set amount of pixels that any dot can squeeze through. I see defenders and HBs squeeze through the O and D line like they are not there at all. That would probably fix this issue and many others.

Originally posted by odg62
EDIT: also if no exploit is acceptable and the answer is to take features out, this game wouldnt have any features left.

This.

PS: While I have a DE, the DC does not use this "exploit" to give him more sacks, and he doesn't have first step or 8,000 speed anyway, so it wouldn't help.